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				Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:04 pm
				by darkrezin
				A couple of handy utils for troubleshooting click/pop problems with Windows DAWs:
http://www.mark-knutson.com/technique_to_target_inc/
I originally found out about the app here:
http://sound-on-sound2.infopop.net/2/Op ... =150108472
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				Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:00 pm
				by BingoTheClowno
				Great! Awesome! 
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				Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:45 pm
				by BingoTheClowno
				What I am wondering is, where these settings are stored: the registry or the BIOS? My mobo's BIOS has only one global PCI Latency setting.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:13 pm
				by darkrezin
				Sorry, I have no idea! I haven't tried the app yet (I don't have click/pop problems) but I have seen others have good results with it. I may give it a try sometime to see if it results in a performance boost, but I just don't have time at the moment :/
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:20 pm
				by BingoTheClowno
				Well there are two applications, one runs a global test on your PC and you have to kinda figure out where the performance bottlenecks are. The second application, I like its name Ulysses 

 , allows you to look at the PCI Latency settings on all devices that use one and modify those settings accordingly.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:54 pm
				by darkrezin
				I've finally gotten around to testing these tools, and I have to say they do a damn good job. I have an Asus P4PE-based system which I was just using for internet and misc duties. I recently decided to use it for 2 of my Pulsar cards - to my dismay I was getting PCI overloads in SFP while using the firewire and wireless internet. I ran the tool and set all other PCI devices to PCI Latency 96 - the same as the Pulsars. No more PCI overloads! The author does a version for $10 which sets the values on every bootup. I really recommend it!
[edit] I should add that I also set the graphics card to PCI Latency 96 (it was 256 before!).
On a sidenote - I discovered that Pulsar and Pulsar2 have different PCI Latency values - Pulsar has 128, while Pulsar2 has 96. Slightly odd I thought.. however the system is working fine so no real worries.
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				Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:51 pm
				by Music Manic
				Which latency ettings do yo
u use?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:33 pm
				by darkrezin
				I set everything which had higher PCI latency value to the same or less than the Pulsar2 - wireless 64, AGP 96, Gigabit ethernet 96, etc. I'm sure I'll be tinkering with it as I start using my system a bit more.. I'll try and remember to report back any further findings.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:41 pm
				by Music Manic
				Thanks
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:10 pm
				by Grok
				Great!...Thanks dArKr3zIn
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				Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:44 pm
				by krizrox
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:31 am
				by luigicampala
				this is a great tool for testing your configurations latency
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
you might want to check it with a low level scope project.
for comparison:
i have an absolute max of 28µs
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:34 am
				by luigicampala
				ok,ok...
when moving a window it´s 29µ 
 
but it depends on what scope-project your running
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Handy tools for troubleshooting
				Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:41 am
				by Mary Mungo
				The link for mark-knutson pci pop and click eliminator has been moved and renamed as Doubledawg and Ulyses
the location is found here
http://www.mark-knutson.com/t3/_index.html 
			 
			
					
				Re: Handy tools for troubleshooting
				Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:35 pm
				by dawman
				
  There Ya' Go. I might need it in a couple weeks. 
 That DAWg will definately hunt.  
 
Ankyu.