?? Is the MSI™ 865PE Neo2 a good one for CW stuff??

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djdave66
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Post by djdave66 »

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Post by emzee »

Why that board? I think other users have been disappointed with the performance of their MSI boards. What are the features of that board that you seek? I'm sure people who know more than I do can guide you further.
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Post by SL1200MK4 »

Well, the MSI offers top notch performance matter of fact, the problem with that board is how it did it. The boards that perform well are the ones with corecell technology, which can be a good and bad thing. It dynamically overclocks your CPU within a safe level of course. But then that might not be what you are looking for right? It "shouldn't" give you any problem and you probably wont' notice the overclocking while enjoy the performance, but something you should be aware of, of course that can be turn off in the BIOS as well.

The current market leader would be ASUS, in terms of performance, the problem with thier 875/865 boards are the Gigabit ethernet. They use 3com chipset, which will have to be shared with the pulsar. If you do have a networked fileserver which I do. The fact that your ethernet is running it's own bus is a bonus. Asus also offer the E Deluxe variation which uses the Intel Gigabit chip, and that's the one you get. Pay speical attention with Asus board on which chip they use for Gigabit ethernet.

I would personally go with Gigabyte, not the performance leader but not too far off. Provide the highest flexibility, and offer the greatest amount of expendability. One of their board can actually have up to 3 different RAID, and 12 IDE devices (HD, optical drives) all goes to the motherboard.

Sure, you might not need that much drives and that much RAID, But I think it would be nice to have the option... and room to grow.
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Post by emzee »

While I just bought an Intel board,(few options, but suits me) I have been told the Abit boards are also very good. Any opinion on those?
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Post by Immanuel »

I believe I read, that someone complained about the noise from the north bridge fan on the Abit FSB800 boards.
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Post by mr swim »

I don't think the sharing of gigabit ethernet with the pulsar should be too much of a problem with the 3com chipset. Firstly, because (as a user of a 3com pci card) they are one of the most efficient band-users in their market. Secondly, because a) the southbridge chipsets these days are just so much bigger than any that were being designed when the current creamware cards came out, so should easily cope with it, and b) because its really unlikely that you would be using all that bandwidth on ethernet anyway.

err, could stand corrected on all this, just the way it seems to me . . .
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Post by SL1200MK4 »

The Intel boards are rock solid...

The ABIT board is a great overclocking board, hey you gain some you lose some. Some people were running well above 1000FSB (that's 250Mhz VS 200MHz stock) with that board.
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Post by SL1200MK4 »

Well, if never do anything network related with your DAW, you probably won't even care if the board got Gigabit ethernet or not...

And by that, I ain't saying ICQ and Stuff, but let's say, load samples from a file server and or access audio files. It's probably gonna help. Sure, I know you probably won't play no idea with pulsar while loading anyways, but if you want to keep your option open keep that in mind isn't that bad of an idea.

The current PCI bus runs at 32Bit/33Mhz which gives you 133MB/Sec of bandwidth. Gigabit ethernet is capable of 1000Gbps, which is 125MB/Sec, but they max out at about 70% of that. So, say 87.5MB/Sec. That's about 65% of your PCI bandwidth, and that to me makes a difference if you do need to use ethernet and the pulsar at the same time.

If you use the RAID on those board, unless it's ICH5R SATA, which gives 2 SATA. You are using the PCI bus, too. Like those onboard Promise chip...

So, that brings to another issue. If you want the best performance out of the pulsar and you have enough DSP and stuff running let's say. Are you better off without a 4 Disc RAID running on PCI bus performance wise? The ICH5R can give you RAID and another 4 PATA devices... without taxing your PCI bus bandwidth, and even a PATA100 7200rpm disc alone is capable of handling serious audio task, if it's a dedicated drive and OS is installed else where...

Now that gets more interesting...
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Post by djdave66 »

I think i gonna take a asus P4C800 E.
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Post by SL1200MK4 »

Good choice man... That board probably got the best performance and got the Intel Gigabit LAN with CSA...

Rock solid, too. Good luck and enjoy...

BTW, try to avoid using the 2 SATA and the PATA that's not control by the ICH5R. Give you more PCI bandwidth for your Pulsar...
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Post by djdave66 »

-can someb give me some tips about-
======= (asus P4C800 E) =========
how to install xp , standaard pc or normal?
disable acpi apic in bios?
disable Hyper-Threading Technology ?
pci latecy 64 ok?

====THxs====
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Post by djdave66 »

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