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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:40 pm
by aMo
Would a cable like this be any better against noise, than eight seperate cables?

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I am only getting -80db on all analog inputs (white noise when gain is set high), is this bad?

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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:51 pm
by Immanuel
When you add gain, you add everything - noise included. It is better to add gain before your converter. What is your noise level with the gain set to 0 in SFP?

The cable looks pretty cheap to me. Convenient, but cheap.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:58 pm
by aMo
Yeah.. looks like cheap quality.. but I'd like a cable like that, with no compromise on quality... preferrably.. any suggestions?

my noise level is -80db when gain is set to 0, but I had the impression from the Alesis Ai3 ADAT interface manual, that I was supposed to get -100db.. I might be mistaken though..

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:09 pm
by astroman
when it's white noise without brzzzling and humming you have at least no ground, case or shielding probs :grin:

cheers, tom

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:13 pm
by RedSun
This will probably make your noise level worse. These cables are all unbalanced, thus sensible to EM interference pickup and, since they're all parallel and as close together as can be, if one picks up that kind of noise, all the others will too.

If you can't use good balanced cables in your setup, you might want to take the time to do a search in the articles on the <a href=”http://www.sospubs.co.uk”>Sound On Sound</a> website. They have some good ones on wiring and grounding schemes.


BTW, these are Hosa cables, right?



RedSun .:.

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:29 am
by aMo
They are Hosa right.. and they are also available in balanced..
But will it matter if it's balanced or not when the outputs of my Virus unbalanced?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:32 pm
by RedSun
It won't. Using balanced cables with unbalanced equipment will make you lose all their noise rejection benefits.



RedSun .:.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:07 pm
by aMo
So what is best for connecting unbalanced cables? (short distance)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:15 pm
by grotools
In general it's better to have them made especially. I never found unbalanced cables in the shops....

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:25 pm
by garyb
those hosa cables are o.k..better would be a higher quality cable w/ soldered ends such as mogami or canare or monster.you may have to make the snake yourself or custom order it.the extra expense is probably not justified,but if you have the money...........

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:39 pm
by aMo
hmm.. Why didn't I think of Monster?? hehe

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This one looks like a winner..

The thing with collecting all the cables in a snake, is that if you twist them correctly, they will not have any effect on each other, this is why most cables have the positive and negative cable twisted around each other..

I only need one, so I can probably justify getting a Monster in a snake (haha I made a funny)..

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:33 pm
by astroman
yeah, like one of those Aussie watersnakes :smile:
but this has 8 legs, to me it looks more like a spider, Black Widow cable :cool:
the colors of my racing bicycle btw :grin: