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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 9:04 am
by flashvalley
Hi,

I'm looking for some interfaces to expand the I/O capabilities of my pulsarII..
The A16 Ultra is too expensive (read: out of my budget) and I don't need 16ins/16outs anyway. I was thinking of the luna 2496 I/O Box, but then I also have to buy a z-link card. (but then again, it's still cheaper and 8in/8out is more than enough). But I was wondering if there are any other options of expanding the pulsar2? What are the alternatives from other companies to use with the adat-connectors of the pulsar2 board?

Best regards,

Flashvalley

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 10:47 am
by Gregory
Alesis AI3. 8 Analog I/Os to ADAT. About $400 US new. Don't go lesser than that. There is the Fostex ADAT analog to ADAT converter (about $300 US new) but it's a tad noisy for professional work.

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:54 pm
by doodyrh
Here's a load of stuff.
And Swissonic might have something for you too.
There've been a couple of threads on this recently. There's quite a premium to pay if you want 96kHz/24-bit.

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:35 pm
by flashvalley
thanks for all the help.. I'll have to check things out thoroughly... I don't really need 96khz/24bit so that's good news (for my wallet anyway)

cheers

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:20 pm
by bosone
i have your same problem. this summer i will work to buy some I/O adat expansion, but i don't know which one. i hope to find something used, like a old creamware A16 not the A16 ultra) or the A8. otherwise, i think i will buy a fostex VC8, even if the Alesis A3 seems much better with its balanced in.

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:51 pm
by garyb
someone just GAVE me 2 dead adats.(i'll fix them)the ad/da converters still work.there are a lot of those out there............

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:45 am
by bosone
On 2002-06-27 00:51, garyb wrote:
someone just GAVE me 2 dead adats.(i'll fix them)the ad/da converters still work.there are a lot of those out there............
WHERE I CAN FIN THEM HERE IN ITALY!?!?! (eh eh eh!! ....)

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:41 pm
by garyb
start asking around studios, music stores,freinds and classifieds.if all else fails i think i can find you a couple for little money ($100 each or so, maybe) and shipping.(not to sure about the logistics tho!)

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:54 am
by flashvalley
I was just checking my local musicstore for the price of the alesis and they're asking 765 EUR or $758 US... That's a lot more than the amount of about $400 US/400 EUR I expected and spotted on the internet.

Are they trying to rip me off?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:27 pm
by astroman
there's also a 20 bit version of Adat (LX20), but for IO expansion any usable (as recorder) Adat is too expensive.
In Europe the broken ones Gary mentioned are difficult to optain without personal contacts.
But since you're close to Germany the shops in the Cologne area do lots of Fostex sell-out. VC8 should be around 200 Euro.

cheers, Tom

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 1:51 am
by bosone
But since you're close to Germany the shops in the Cologne area do lots of Fostex sell-out. VC8 should be around 200 Euro.
can you tell me if the shop you are telling about have a web site and ships to italy??
thanks

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 10:13 am
by astroman
I know them only from their regular ads in magazines. Though not a big fan of discounters, some of their offers are hard to deny. The specials change frequently.
Dunno if they ship to Italy, but then... why do we have Euro :roll:
http://www.musicstorekoeln.de
http://www.musik-produktiv.de

cheers, Tom


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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 12:42 pm
by flashvalley
It seems that the luna box and Z-link are in the same price league as the Alesis AI-3.. I'be checked with my local musicstores. What do you guys suggest? Any pros/cons about both options?

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:02 pm
by marcuspocus
ai3 pros: adat is widely used, compatible
ai3 cons: adat is sometimes difficult to use due to sync problems (master/slave)

cw pros: No sync (firewire) issues, very good sound quality (better than ai3 imho)
cw cons: proprietary protocol

that's my .02cents

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:14 am
by ernest@303.nu
I'll order an Fostex VC-8 today for 233 Euro at musicstorekoeln. From my experience with German discounters, shipping within Europe will be 15-20 Euro... pretty OK, me thinks! :smile:
Will report a small 'review' of the VC-8 when I have it connected.

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:53 am
by janila
Any experiences with the Marian Adcon? 8 * balanced 24bit ADAT I/O for well under 400 euros seems cheap to me!

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 5:23 am
by steve.h
On 2002-07-03 09:53, janila wrote:
Any experiences with the Marian Adcon? 8 * balanced 24bit ADAT I/O for well under 400 euros seems cheap to me!
No experience [yet].I was in the market for an AI3, but now that you've pointed this baby out...

I do wish Adcon came in a full 1U rack.
I do wish the AI3 had mic preamps.

Does anyone know if the Adcon pres suck or rock?

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:24 pm
by at0m
Advantages from Z-Link:
One Z-Link interface transfers eight digital channels at 24 bits / 96 kHz. On the Z-Link board, there's 16 Z-Link and 8 ADAT I/O. 8 more.

But since it's a proprietary format, you cannot intermix with 3rd party hardware. That's the only disadvantage: If you'd ever change your mind about CW, you'll need to sell cards and patchbays.