Installing SFP on XP Pro

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue May 07, 2002 7:59 pm

Hi all, i have a problem installing SFP on WinXP pro... I don't know why, but when i click on setup.exe, it does not do anything!

I see in taskmanager installer.exe taking 4010kb og memory, but nothing happen, even after waiting... Does somebody have any idea what's happening here?

I got no clue....

darolek · Post by **darolek** » Tue May 07, 2002 9:38 pm

Hi Marcus !
Test your archive after download.

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue May 07, 2002 10:08 pm

Hi Darolek, thank for the info, i tryed that... The archives seems perfect...

Anyway, i completely formatted the drive, and reinstalled XP, now it work the first time. I suspect that one of the tweak i did prevented installing...

Now it seems to work, almost finish installing...

Thanks again !

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 1:00 am

Update drivers first...

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed May 08, 2002 4:26 am

Don't worry this was the first thing i did...

And didn't work....

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 6:47 am

For me it says:

Installation error

Cannot start CreamWare Installer
(error code 0001)

I updated the drivers and I'm running XP Pro. The archive seems to be just fine.

Marcus, which tweak did you change? My XP is also a bit tweaked and I wonder if that's the problem.

[ This Message was edited by: janila on 2002-05-08 07:50 ]

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 6:58 am

Check http://www.blkviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm There's Cryptographic Services for WinUPdate, and another one for other software: Application Management. I suggest Application Management is enabled

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 6:59 am

Oh yes, don't forget to login as main admin. You can check that under Users, but I also had once a 'hidden' account under XP, under which I installed the software. And it did not appear in my accounts list, only when I went to Safe Mode/DOS-like interface.

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 7:19 am

Solved. Kind of my bad. The install didn't wan't to run over network. I think I got the same error message on my other computer which had the software and another CW card. One error message seems to fit for all.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 7:23 am

Installs doesn't run over network, cos the setup program .exe doesn't search over network to find the other files. AFAIK.

edit: I never got it to work

[ This Message was edited by: at0mic on 2002-05-08 13:22 ]

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 7:30 am

Most installers work over network as the installers search the files in relation to the installers location.

Now I got a second problem. I have a Pulsar without ProPack (has been ordered from CW over a month ago!!!) and the Registration window for Effects Package II keeps popping up when starting Cubase and XTC. Is this a bug or is there a way I can close it for good?

It seems to come once for every plugin included in the EP2 every time I run Cubase. Gets annoying.

[ This Message was edited by: janila on 2002-05-08 08:45 ]

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Wed May 08, 2002 8:13 am

Did you get your keys from your personal download page at Creamware?
Did you read the ReadMe file?

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Wed May 08, 2002 9:00 am

Ingo new message from from yahoogroups mail list:

We are not sure yet why some have problems launching the setup under Win
2000 / XP.

Please try instead to launch installer.exe from the setupbin folder. Hope
it helps

Ingo,
CreamWare

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed May 08, 2002 10:32 am

Do not install this over a network connection, it won't install. Make a local copy, or burn a CD, and install from there.

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 10:35 am

I got the keys and read the readme. The problem is that I don't have the key for Effects Package 2 and it keeps asking for it. It's pretty annoying to close 20-30 windows before I can start Cubase. It seems that it doesn't register plugins in any non-registered state but keeps asking for the keys instead.

The earlier Creamware installers worked over network and therefore I assumed this would do so too. Now I know.

[ This Message was edited by: janila on 2002-05-08 11:36 ]

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:14 pm

Hi, it's me again.

New error messages when trying to install SFP.

Cannot start software because board(s) or driver not properly installed. Please check Installation.

and after clicking OK

Installation error
Cannot start CreamWare Installer
(error code 0004)

There are Pulsar and Elektra in the computer, both running the SFP drivers, no conflicts. Luna 2.5 works fine with both cards. I've checked all the services and other stuff mentioned under this topic. I also tried the installer under Setup/Bin with the same results.

One other intresting detail, the SFP UnInstaller doesn't work without Creamware hardware. Atleast not on my other computer. I'm not that suprised..

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:24 pm

If you don't have keys for the devices, remove the corresponding .DLLs from your XTC folder and Cubase should load without the dialogs... I agree it could be smoother there, but that fixes it.

janila · Post by **janila** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:53 pm

Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that myself? Thanks! Now I just have to get it installed..

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 08, 2002 12:55 pm

That's right, Sub! (I already wrote this, so I'll post it anyways...)

about your registration popup problem:

Cubase detects every installed XTC plugin on boot. SFP installs every plugin. Delete the ones you don't have, check very carefully in your registrations page and the shop, to see which device you own and which you don't. Don't delete too much

You're lucky in XTC mode. One way. Cos in OS mode, you can delete every device you don't have. Including mixers, effects, synths...

Might be a good marketing policy of Creamware. Every one will get to see all devices, also in the comparison chart, you/every buyer can now have a glimpse of their best stuff, even if he's only got a small card. Nobody looses, you don't get less devices. But the road to upgrades is more appealing, looks better, don't you think?

Hopefully there's an update, cos it sure hasn't been simple install yet. And I've only tried the Creamware stuff this far. Right now I'm thinking how to install 3rd party devices into SFP. They will load if they don't require extra files, they keep their OS's version options (no quick routings, preset list etc).

I think I'm gonna do next:
-If you have 3.01, install 3.1 and convert the presets to 3.1. Backup your presets and free devices and other 3.01 stuff which hasn't renewed in 3.1, including their presets.
-Then get a fresh XP, get latest drivers, install 3.1, restore your backups.
If you don't do it now, your old stuff may get hard to retreive.

[ This Message was edited by: at0mic on 2002-05-08 14:03 ]

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Wed May 08, 2002 1:29 pm

I have the same problem. I can't start the Setup .exe with Win XP. But I learned that if you right click the exe file and choose Run As, you are given the choice of which user account you want to run the program. The first choice is Current User and the second is Administrator or another option. The check box associated with the Current User is to protect against unauthorized program activity. Leave this box checked and proceed. The installation begins and after you have installed the new driver and rebooted and started the installer again you will come to installing the Keys. They won't install! Damn....with the Scope keyset or without! It says "Cannot open registry file". The installer won't start at all with Admin rights.