Where do I begin?

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VSTerranova
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Where do I begin?

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hi there everyone,

its been more than 17 years I did not touch my Creamware/Scope stuff due to personal reasons( I have litarlly lost my mind).
Now that I am 'sane' again I have been diagnosed with an incurable disease.
I would like to make some music again, just to leave something behind.
I own 6 dsp boards 4 with 6 and 2 with 15, I remember I own a 3 too(luna) but can not find that anymore.
I own a ton of plugins I know, because the boards where running on three systems a lot of them dubble.
things I remember are mix 'n master pack, synth pack, John Bowen synth, Flexor etc etc...

I have tried to make one of the old systems work again, but I don't even remember the passwords.

is there anyone out there that have suggestions how I can get started again.

your help will be appreciated.

regards from Amsterdam
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Bud Weiser
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Hmmm,- 3 SCOPE systems and a lot of 3rd party devices ... :-?

May I ask which SCOPE application versions these were?
Do you still own the computers and/or old harddrives containing your setups?

You won´t need a password,- instead you´ll need the .rgy (formerly .allkeys) files (each one out of your former 3 systems) from your Scope applications folder.
Did you really never ever made backups from these small SCOPE registry files containing all of your and for each set of PCI cards activated devices?

When you don´t have the application and device keys, the only way is buying latest SCOPE v7 for every system you want to set up w/your old cards again.
Most S|C devices are included meanwhile,- except Protone, Prodyssey and Modular IV,- but your 3rd party devices might or will be lost forever I fear.
Sonic Core doesn´t have a user database w/ registered cards (hardware numbers) and related activation keys from Creamware times available.

For FleXor (Adern) and Zarg (John Bowen) you might have more luck when contacting them and ask if they have a customer record.

John Bowen (formerly ZARG)
https://johnbowen.com/new/
go to the legacy tab to the upper right of the page and there comes a pulldown menue listing all the ZARG devices.
Possibly you can remember what you owned and used,- then write a email to info@johnbowen.com.

I can imagine S|C support can help making a contact to Adern (FleXor).

hope this helps a bit,-

good luck

:)

Bud
VSTerranova
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Post by VSTerranova »

Thanks for your reply,

as far as I remember it was the Scope 4.5 software.
the password I mean is for the windows system.
I am sure I have the registry files somewhere....but where??....my head is still a mess :-?

But thanks anyway for your advice.

for now I will work on a new system without my Creamware boards.


Thanks
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Post by Casper »

Are you then still on windows 7?

Help here to still get in.
https://www.solveyourtech.com/recoverin ... tep-guide/

Or search for it on google to reset/overwrite windows password.
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You can also simply take the windows drive and mount it on a different computer to access the old scope folder and recover your keys. Recover that in some of your installation files if they are there and then maybe back up the whole scope folder just for good measure
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Casper wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:43 am Are you then still on windows 7?

Help here to still get in.
https://www.solveyourtech.com/recoverin ... tep-guide/

Or search for it on google to reset/overwrite windows password.
I wish, older, the systems I have are Windows XP or 2000
VSTerranova
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thanks so far guys
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VSTerranova wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:31 am I wish, older, the systems I have are Windows XP or 2000
It´s all about if you still have the old system drive available,- regardless which OS version.
You won´t boot from,- instead mount that drive into a external USB2 case or such,- then access the on that drive installed SCOPE (folder: program files/SCOPE) and search for the .rgy file (SCOPE registry file) inthe Scope application or one of it´s sub-folders.
Once you found that file,- save to a USB stick.
You can also zip the entire SCOPE (v4) folder saving the entire SCOPE 4 installation.

From there,- 2 options:

1.) Setting up a Win XP machine again, install Scope 4 and then copy the entire saved Scope 4 installation including the keyfile over.

or use a Win7 (or higher) machine and ...

2. Buy Scope v7 and request v5 keyfiles for your 3rd party and optional Scope devices from Sonic Core.

:)

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Litte note:
if your drive is not recognized with a external USB case, don't say yes to any requested "repair" operations, windows might ask.
Some USB cases "translate" the partitioning layout, so the MBR/GPT seems to be wrong. In this case you either plug the drive directly onto the motherboard or use an external SATA case.
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ALWAYS leave the original disk 100% untouched when doing disk operations to recover data.

If you can't get things to work no matter how many ways you try attaching an old drive, consider GetDataBack (NTFS or FAT versions, depending), which will build an image of the file allocation tab (or NTFS filesystem) in RAM and then allow you to 'copy' the data you wish to any other drive.
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