SCOPE 3 download

[banex982]

Can someone please put link of old SCOPE 3 CD please?

[valis]

I don't have Scope3 at present, I might have it in a box somewhere but it would be buried. If you go for that version, Scope 3.1c is what you want.

However these are better options if you have the keys:


https://scopeusers.com/Pulsar/files/SCO ... nstall.zip
https://scopeusers.com/Pulsar/files/SCO ... nstall.zip

[banex982]

Thank you! Are keys for 4 and 4.5 same as for 3.1? If not, where can I get them?

[Bud Weiser]

Thank you! Are keys for 4 and 4.5 same as for 3.1? If not, where can I get them?

Which Scope hardware do you own ?
Do you know the to your hardware related hardware serial number(s) ?
Which (activation-) keys do you own for your hardware already ?
Why do you need Scope v3.1c ?

Do you own SCOPE PCI cards or XITE ?
When you own,- which keys were provided when you bought new or used,- v5, v5.1 or v7 ?



Bud

[banex982]

Hi, I bought Creamware SCOPE home PCI card and LUNA I/O Box 20+ years ago, with it came CD with v3.1 (not sure what letter)
keys are on PCI card and I can activate v3.1 with them.
I dont have v5, v5.1, v7 keys
I mostly did 8 channel recordings with some of basic effects since there is no sdo much DSP power on my card. Than I didnt work for 6-7y
and since its amazing hardware and software, I have dedicated PC for it, quad AMD, with XP and 4gb RAM and 1TB of SSD and it records and does what its supposed to do. But I would like to renew it at least with software since I dont have money for DSP board.

[Bud Weiser]

Hi, I bought Creamware SCOPE home PCI card and LUNA I/O Box 20+ years ago, with it came CD with v3.1 (not sure what letter)
keys are on PCI card and I can activate v3.1 with them.
I dont have v5, v5.1, v7 keys
I mostly did 8 channel recordings with some of basic effects since there is no sdo much DSP power on my card. Than I didnt work for 6-7y
and since its amazing hardware and software, I have dedicated PC for it, quad AMD, with XP and 4gb RAM and 1TB of SSD and it records and does what its supposed to do. But I would like to renew it at least with software since I dont have money for DSP board.

There´s something in germany for you ...
https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ ... 9-225-1173
It says "VB" whcih means "bargain".
So, lowering price might be possible.

So, when no one here is able to provide the CD for you, such deal might be the only chance.
You can also try ebay.
Such CDs come up occasionally.

But, you can also buy SCOPE v7 for your Luna: https://sonic-core.de/product/scope-application-v7/
... and request Scope 4.5 or v5.1 keys later.
AFAIK, you´d get ´em for free when you own v7 keys.

Scope 4.5 is for XP and STS samplers and VDAT will work flawlessly w/ SCOPE 32Bit.
Scope v5.1 and v7 32Bit will work too,- but my experience was, STS and VDAT worked best w/ Scope v4.0 and 4.5.
And to my knowledge,- the difference between v4.0 and 4.5 was just only the driver.



Bud

[banex982]

Thank you for a link in Germany, but I was thinking about DSP BOOSTER card with v7 that SC offers. Also looking at the card it looks like mine, just different name its LUNA and mine is Creamware SCOPE home + LUNA 8ch I/O box. What is difference between luna and scope home?
Maybe you are right about it, for little money I can get 3 more DSPs, right?

[banex982]

Sadly https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ ... 9-225-1173 doesnt have Serbia listed in phone number codes for registering my phone no. so I cant activate account and trade.

[banex982]

and about Scope 4.5, what keys are good for that version? old v3.1 or some now "unobtainable"??

[Bud Weiser]

Sadly https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ ... 9-225-1173 doesnt have Serbia listed in phone number codes for registering my phone no. so I cant activate account and trade.

For that case I recomended looking @ebay ...

There´s at least 1 complete (CDs included !) double- LUNA-2 package:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/135235742128?_ ... R8TX-4C6ZA

And there are Luna II w/ v4 keys:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256542018716?_ ... R8LX-4C6ZA

where the following one is the better deal (see listed device keys) ...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256541984809?_ ... R8LX-4C6ZA

But later, you might want to buy SCOPE v7 or 8,- another investment in addition.
So,- buying a S|C 6-DSP booster incl. 3 years warranty and SCOPE v7 is a good idea too !!!

good luck,-



Bud

[Bud Weiser]

and about Scope 4.5, what keys are good for that version? old v3.1 or some now "unobtainable"??

Scope v4.5 is a VERSION.

There are application keys (v3, 4, 4.5, 5.0, 5.1 and 7 up to now) and device keys,- stock devices being included in versions as also 3rd party device keys.
From Scope v5 on, the most S|C stock devices were already included w/ it´s peak in v7.
For v7, the only optional S|C devices are Prodyssey, Sixstring, Protone and Modular IV,- and all 3rd party devices by nature too.
Have a look @ S|C shop.

But there are also devices included which need more DSPs than just only a Luna (2) or even a single 6-DSP Pulsar-2, but I can imagine, w/ a Luna-2 and a 6-DSP booster you´re able to do something.

And, you won´t urgently need v4.5 for WinXP.
I installed at least v5.1 on WinXP Pro SP3 and IIRC, v7 installs on WinXP too.
I think it needs disabling driver signing in Windows XP for both versions and you might need a very few of additional 32bit-files,- at least for the STS samplers.
You´ll find everything help here in the forum !

best



Bud

[banex982]

There are application keys (v3, 4, 4.5, 5.0, 5.1 and 7 up to now) and device keys,- stock devices being included in versions as also 3rd party device keys.
From Scope v5 on, the most S|C stock devices were already included w/ it´s peak in v7.
For v7, the only optional S|C devices are Prodyssey, Sixstring, Protone and Modular IV,- and all 3rd party devices by nature too.
Have a look @ S|C shop.

Thank you very much I went to Ebay immidiatelly and found two cards same as mine but with different keys on stickers,
also thanks for explanation about device keys. I consider buying the 125$ card for 3 more DSPs...
Just one more question, can I install V4 or V4.5 with keys that I got with my card or I am stuck on 3.1 until I buy v7 or one of the cards from EBay that has v4 keys?

[Bud Weiser]

Just one more question, can I install V4 or V4.5 with keys that I got with my card or I am stuck on 3.1 until I buy v7 or one of the cards from EBay that has v4 keys?

Well, up to SCOPE v4 and 4.5, keys delivered are ONLY valid for their individual card´s hardware serial number.
I guess, the v4 devices run only on the card you get v4 keys for,- and they don´t run on your card w/ v3 keys only.
I´m not 100% sure, so please double check by asking support !

For sure, when you buy the S|C 6-DSP booster, w/ Scope v7, that´s somewhat a game changer since ALL the keys are valid across ALL the cards being installed in the same computer.
IIRC, this behaviour changed beginning w/Scope v5 or v5.1.

As an example,- I myself use a Pulsar-2 and 6-DSP booster together w/ a 15DSP Power Pulsar and a sync plate in the same machine where all the Scope v7 32Bit keys are registered to the 15 DSP Power Pulsar card only.

In this case and vs. 2 Luna, you´d have 3 more DSPs and all the stock Scope v7 devices running on all the DSPs across your Luna and DSP booster cards.

When ordering the S|C 6-DSP booster, you might want the Scope v7 keys for your Luna card OR the booster card.
I´d opt for the Luna which has the MIDI and I/Os ´cause it´s easieer to sell the card later and in case you want to.
Selling a booster card without keys is no problem at all.



Bud

[sunmachine]

Later versions of the SCOPE application won't work with your 3.x keys, so you won't be able to use V4 or higher with them.

Note that the 6-DSP Boosters that are currently available in the S|C shop are new cards, that is, they were built in 2020 (AFAIK) and will most probably last longer than the original ones. That's a good (and maybe the last) opportunity to get hold of newly built cards that will work for years to come. (So I would prefer to have the V7 keys for that card.)

If you buy V7, you may need to get new keys for devices you already have but aren't included in V7 (like ProTone for example), since Sonic Core changed the way how keys are generated, so that the original keys by Creamware won't work with V7 (and V5). Ask support.

If you still need the installation CD for Version 3, I could upload 3.1 here. I'll see, if I have the update to 3.1c as well somewhere.

By the way, you'll need STDM cables to connect two (or three) cards with each other. So make sure to get those as well if you buy another card for your system.

[valis]

Sun, if you have 3.1c send me a pm and I'll handle putting it on the site along with the other archived versions.

[sunmachine]

The downloads for Version 3.1c (full version) are available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/200407110101 ... es&lang=en

Thanks again to the Web Archive

[Bud Weiser]

Later versions of the SCOPE application won't work with your 3.x keys, so you won't be able to use V4 or higher with them.

What´s up when he buys the Luna w/ v4.5 keys @ebay and use together w/ his current Luna ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/256541984809?_ ... R8LX-4C6ZA

At the bottom of the page, there are Scope v4.5 keys listed.

You say, his own Luna, formerly carrying SFP v3.1c keys, is unusable then and when combined w/ this card ?

By the way, you'll need STDM cables to connect two (or three) cards with each other. So make sure to get those as well if you buy another card for your system.

I´ve seen these @ebay.com as well.
Just only type "creamware" and select "musical instruments" and/or "pro audio" as categories.

MIDI cables for Luna (II) are here for cheap:
https://www.netzwerkartikel.de/ps-2-zu- ... 39340.html
I bought 2 of these from that seller.




Bud

[sunmachine]

Sure, when he gets a card with a v4.5 key and combines it with his Luna, then he's able to run 3.1 and 4.5, since he has keys for both versions. What I meant is, that he can't just download v4.5 and run it with his keys for 3.1. Hope, it's clearer now.

[Bud Weiser]

Sure, when he gets a card with a v4.5 key and combines it with his Luna, then he's able to run 3.1 and 4.5, since he has keys for both versions. What I meant is, that he can't just download v4.5 and run it with his keys for 3.1. Hope, it's clearer now.

Yep,- and that´s good info too because I wasn´t sure,- thank you !

I myself, I have still 2 Luna II (one w/ basic Scope v4.5 keys, the other w/ v5.1 keys) and a Pulsar-2 left over.
Can be I´ll get a syncplate this month,- and I have the Luna expansion board (w/ ADAT & 2nd Z-link) as well.
Will be my 3rd Scope system in a old socket 775 rackmount PC.



Bud

[sunmachine]

And there are Luna II w/ v4 keys:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256542018716?_ ... R8LX-4C6ZA

where the following one is the better deal (see listed device keys) ...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256541984809?_ ... R8LX-4C6ZA

I wonder if the key "CW Scope Fusion Platform" is the one for v4.5?

Note, that in the first auction, there are keys of two different cards listed, but only the first one (with serial number R266K0405) is the one that is sold if I'm not mistaken.