anyone doing it? what is your method?
I am thinking of playing out w/my electro-self, and want pulsar w/me cuz it is a fine piece o' kit.
my two concerns:
1 crashes - my idea is to use one project, and keep it open the whole set - mostly need the STS3000 and FX, but also a synth er two. when ever i get crashes (which is rare) it usually happens when loading/closing projects, so i figure one simple project will be best. probably going with an external sequencer and a lot of HW gear for reliability and to eliminate using a software sequencer live - that really scares me.
2 smoke - i ain't gonna lie - pulsar is the heart of my DAW and i treat it with respect. but clubs have smokers; how bad is this on components? i don't like the sound of tar buildup on my sharcs . . .
any tips, ideas, er whatever, greatly appreciated.
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Crashes are not a thing I´d be really afraid of when using Pulsar. But stuck notes are, so I´d insert "all note off" events within the sequences wherever possible...
And for the smoke (and also the PCs noise problems), I´m just about to construct a prototype of a self-developped multi-purpose-case.
When I have the first one finished and successfully tested, I´m going to distribute it on the net. Price will be approx. 600-700Euros.
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And for the smoke (and also the PCs noise problems), I´m just about to construct a prototype of a self-developped multi-purpose-case.
When I have the first one finished and successfully tested, I´m going to distribute it on the net. Price will be approx. 600-700Euros.
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re: stuck notes - there is an all notes off module for pulsar, i believe it is on these pages, or the steikenlieter site (spelling?).
pulsar has NEVER crashed on me while playing a dsp instrument - only when loading devices, or saving/loading projects. so i guess my fear is quitened. also, i believe there was a setting to keep pulsar running even if the OS crashes in V3. enable that one!
pulsar has NEVER crashed on me while playing a dsp instrument - only when loading devices, or saving/loading projects. so i guess my fear is quitened. also, i believe there was a setting to keep pulsar running even if the OS crashes in V3. enable that one!
there's no setting for the Pulsar to keep it running when OS crashes, lol! It's just that when the Win/MacOS crashes, it doesn't unload Pulsar or isn't likely to bring any unstability in the Pulsar chain. Once loaded, the devices will keep talking to RAM and hardware ports, no DSP will be erased.
For your smoke fear: I wouldn't mind that personally, as long as you don't plan to play as a resident in a club and leave it there for weeks or even months, I don't think a one night out for your cards will do them any harm.
If you'd ever play so much in clubs that your cards will deteriorate, I think by that time you'll have made enough $$$ to get another card
Wish I could attend your gigs cos I really like the music you're making!
Break a leg,
the atom.
For your smoke fear: I wouldn't mind that personally, as long as you don't plan to play as a resident in a club and leave it there for weeks or even months, I don't think a one night out for your cards will do them any harm.
If you'd ever play so much in clubs that your cards will deteriorate, I think by that time you'll have made enough $$$ to get another card
Wish I could attend your gigs cos I really like the music you're making!
Break a leg,
the atom.
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after much deliberation and research, I thought I'd share w/ya'all my "solution" to playing live w/pulsar -
(1) Pulsar is gonna be my "soundbox" - synth, fx, sampler - I'll have dub sub 2, orbitone 303, STS 3000, and ZFilter as mainstays, _ whatever other DSP I can squeeze.
(2) Yamaha RM1X as my main sequencer to drive the Pulsar stuff and provide MTC for everything and add 16 knobs(!)
(3) Drum Kat for MIDI control of drums/percussion/weirdness of the STS
(4) Electribe ES-1 for beat-mayhem and my peculiar tendency to make offensive percussion sounds in a computer.
(5) Electrix FilterQueen for the ES-1 outs
(6) Electrix MO-FX on my Mixer Aux
(7) Yamaha CS2X as standalone synth
(8) Fostex VM-200 mixer (for ADAT from Pulsar and for mixing) and AMT8 MIDI interface (or maybe Unitor8 if I can get one cheap on ebay) to tie it all together. . .
whattyathink? - got most of it already, and getting the rest soon. . .
(1) Pulsar is gonna be my "soundbox" - synth, fx, sampler - I'll have dub sub 2, orbitone 303, STS 3000, and ZFilter as mainstays, _ whatever other DSP I can squeeze.
(2) Yamaha RM1X as my main sequencer to drive the Pulsar stuff and provide MTC for everything and add 16 knobs(!)
(3) Drum Kat for MIDI control of drums/percussion/weirdness of the STS
(4) Electribe ES-1 for beat-mayhem and my peculiar tendency to make offensive percussion sounds in a computer.
(5) Electrix FilterQueen for the ES-1 outs
(6) Electrix MO-FX on my Mixer Aux
(7) Yamaha CS2X as standalone synth
(8) Fostex VM-200 mixer (for ADAT from Pulsar and for mixing) and AMT8 MIDI interface (or maybe Unitor8 if I can get one cheap on ebay) to tie it all together. . .
whattyathink? - got most of it already, and getting the rest soon. . .
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Long time no post. Just curious, how did the live go?? 
I've used Pulsar live a couple of times.. once without ANY external gear, and frankly, every time I go live, I've had sequencer problems because I used software. And then there's the all-time favorite problem of Mod 2 sequencer patches not syncing with external clock.
But since you're using lots of hardware, maybe you didn't have this problem?
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I've used Pulsar live a couple of times.. once without ANY external gear, and frankly, every time I go live, I've had sequencer problems because I used software. And then there's the all-time favorite problem of Mod 2 sequencer patches not syncing with external clock.
But since you're using lots of hardware, maybe you didn't have this problem?
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actually, I am still in the making-money-and-buying-gear-to-learn-to-play-live-so-that-I-can-play-out-mode. I've got most of the stuff, but still need to learn a few of the boxes, like the RM1X (super nice BTW!).
I hope to avoid all sequencer problems with the RM1X - I shudder at the thought of using cubase live; sure it'll playback sequences, but I wouldn't call that live, especially without an interface to play. The RM1X instill confidence and creativity for me, things which are kinda important for making music.
the modular clock-sync problem was solved by the knowledgable alfonso. see here:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=9&3
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I hope to avoid all sequencer problems with the RM1X - I shudder at the thought of using cubase live; sure it'll playback sequences, but I wouldn't call that live, especially without an interface to play. The RM1X instill confidence and creativity for me, things which are kinda important for making music.
the modular clock-sync problem was solved by the knowledgable alfonso. see here:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=9&3
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My dream would be to perform live with my PC and no external device, except a keyboard controller and a few mics...
I don' know if it can come true soon... maybe if I record all my midi tracks on a vDAT so I would need no sequencer...
Do you think it would be viable?
I'm also looking forward aquiring a compact "lunchbox" PC casing. Any entries about that?
I don' know if it can come true soon... maybe if I record all my midi tracks on a vDAT so I would need no sequencer...
Do you think it would be viable?
I'm also looking forward aquiring a compact "lunchbox" PC casing. Any entries about that?
I've done it.
I used to have my computer, flat panel and all, tucked into a sampsonite plastic suitcase with wheels. Used it with a little dig board and ran beats and other stuff from acid while playing keys and my friend playing flute. We had a weekly spot at a bar here and I only ever had 1 bad crash and it didn't take too long to deal with (thats out of probably 30ish gigs). I thought it worked well and have plans for a new more ambitous live electric rig in the works. The only thing I would suggest is to have a little CD player or somthing so that if it does go down you can get it going again and keep some music happinin'. also if you use a digi board make sure that the clock issues are resolved and never a problem, if you play through a big system the sound of digi equipment loosing clock will not make you poopular. Also drop the cash and get a case with good fans and intake filters if you are on a hot stage that will drastically decrease your chances of crash-less operation as heat=more crashes. Anyway best of luck, let us know what you come up with.
Ryan
I used to have my computer, flat panel and all, tucked into a sampsonite plastic suitcase with wheels. Used it with a little dig board and ran beats and other stuff from acid while playing keys and my friend playing flute. We had a weekly spot at a bar here and I only ever had 1 bad crash and it didn't take too long to deal with (thats out of probably 30ish gigs). I thought it worked well and have plans for a new more ambitous live electric rig in the works. The only thing I would suggest is to have a little CD player or somthing so that if it does go down you can get it going again and keep some music happinin'. also if you use a digi board make sure that the clock issues are resolved and never a problem, if you play through a big system the sound of digi equipment loosing clock will not make you poopular. Also drop the cash and get a case with good fans and intake filters if you are on a hot stage that will drastically decrease your chances of crash-less operation as heat=more crashes. Anyway best of luck, let us know what you come up with.
Ryan
couple more things I noticed,
lunchboxes are expensive, even a barbones with only case keyboard and flat panel will set you back around 3,000 (last I looked). another thought other than a plastic suitcase is a rack case and a rack drawer and build little arms for a flat panel monitor. thats what I'm going to do next. another little trick is Acid may be chessey but it is solid as a rock. record each section of you songs a.k.a. intro verse chorus, or whatever, to two track mixes. this way you can use acid (or mabye the new ableton live app) and a cheap digi mixer or pulsar control surface to toggle between them. I prefer to have 1 project to work with live and ways of manipulating it and I found that having many parts playing and being able to just mute and and mute is the fastest and to me most musical (for me obviosly). try setting up a rhytem delay from aux busses and feed it to your board hit one button and bam its on. anyway thats my two cents. never had any damage to the computer, and the pulsar I card I was using is still working today. if anyone comes up with new techniques I would love to hear what you are doing.
lunchboxes are expensive, even a barbones with only case keyboard and flat panel will set you back around 3,000 (last I looked). another thought other than a plastic suitcase is a rack case and a rack drawer and build little arms for a flat panel monitor. thats what I'm going to do next. another little trick is Acid may be chessey but it is solid as a rock. record each section of you songs a.k.a. intro verse chorus, or whatever, to two track mixes. this way you can use acid (or mabye the new ableton live app) and a cheap digi mixer or pulsar control surface to toggle between them. I prefer to have 1 project to work with live and ways of manipulating it and I found that having many parts playing and being able to just mute and and mute is the fastest and to me most musical (for me obviosly). try setting up a rhytem delay from aux busses and feed it to your board hit one button and bam its on. anyway thats my two cents. never had any damage to the computer, and the pulsar I card I was using is still working today. if anyone comes up with new techniques I would love to hear what you are doing.
Thanks for the tips...
Going with a rack-mount casing is in my plans. And I'm assembling a 16 contoller midi box with some friends, which will be helpful to control my devices... I plan to use a vdat with my background recorded on it and program my effect changes and patches as much as I can. I will start songs and mute-demute my synths with my midi box... I want only one project with all I need loaded in it, so I only have to activate or deactivate my devices.
I'm still working to have my system as stable as it can be, and when it is, I plan to play in a trio with a virtual orchestra, synths and anything my imagination will indicate me. It's really promising, and if anyone has some experience to share, go on!
Going with a rack-mount casing is in my plans. And I'm assembling a 16 contoller midi box with some friends, which will be helpful to control my devices... I plan to use a vdat with my background recorded on it and program my effect changes and patches as much as I can. I will start songs and mute-demute my synths with my midi box... I want only one project with all I need loaded in it, so I only have to activate or deactivate my devices.
I'm still working to have my system as stable as it can be, and when it is, I plan to play in a trio with a virtual orchestra, synths and anything my imagination will indicate me. It's really promising, and if anyone has some experience to share, go on!