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how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:10 am
by bosone
I was trying to record my take on VDAT into SFP window but I could not understand how to make it work...

I load the VDAT, connect the mix output to channels 1,2 (the meters seem ok)
I create a tape
press record on the VDAT
press play on the sequencer

then, when I open the files crated by the VDAT; i don't see any audio on them!

why!!?

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:39 am
by dante

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:49 am
by bosone
that's what I do but the files are always silent!
If i connect in and out like this

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_07/vdat_mst.htm

i hear the output, so the signal is coming but then it seems not to be directed to the wav files! :-O

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:24 am
by Music Manic
Create a new tape with a new name. I have the same problem if I import an old tape.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:28 am
by bosone
I always create a new tape!

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:09 am
by Music Manic
bosone wrote:I was trying to record my take on VDAT into SFP window but I could not understand how to make it work...

I load the VDAT, connect the mix output to channels 1,2 (the meters seem ok)
I create a tape
press record on the VDAT
press play on the sequencer

then, when I open the files crated by the VDAT; i don't see any audio on them!

why!!?
But you haven't armed the tracks for recording!! After you create the tape you have to arm the inputs for record by pressing the button. They should blink red.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:39 pm
by bosone
Music Manic wrote:
why!!?[/quote wrote:
But you haven't armed the tracks for recording!! After you create the tape you have to arm the inputs for record by pressing the button. They should blink red.
I armed them and the red light blinks....

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:27 pm
by bosone
this is my setup.

i have also tried to push the auto and every other button...
the files are always all without audio, completely silent

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:09 am
by yayajohn
are you disarming the tracks before playback?

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:27 am
by bosone
Yes, but there's nothing to playback because the waves files are always empty...

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:02 am
by dante
. What OS are you running ?
. OS 32 or 64 bit ?
. What permissions are set on the folder you set as output for VDAT ?
. Do files get written there after recording ? EG when you say files are empty do you mean they exist but are zero bytes length ?
. Does same thing happen if you remove said files and recreate tape in VDAT ?
. Are you running Scope as admin ?

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:15 pm
by bosone
dante wrote:. What OS are you running ?
. OS 32 or 64 bit ?
win7 64 bit
. What permissions are set on the folder you set as output for VDAT ?
don't know, I don't have any special permissions on my PC!
. Do files get written there after recording ? EG when you say files are empty do you mean they exist but are zero bytes length ?
no, actually they are zero bytes length!

. Does same thing happen if you remove said files and recreate tape in VDAT ?
yes
. Are you running Scope as admin ?
yes, i have tried but nothing changed


in any case i think i will just give up, it's not so imporant for me!

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:56 pm
by Music Manic
It behaves that way for me sometimes, but only if I use the same tape.

Try from scratch and make the tape a few minutes long and 24 bit to see what happens.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:53 pm
by astroman
a 1 minute Tape may fail, as a real tape has quite a large pre-recording area (2min or so) before the audio
I'm not entirely sure how they handle this as I assume to have created such small tapes myself before knowing the details
(or handling may have changed)

cheers, Tom

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:16 am
by bosone
no way to make it work

tried 24 bit, 10 minutes long tape. nothing happens!

i'll just give up and i'll continue to record in my sequencer.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:08 am
by yayajohn
Just a thought for a last ditch effort. Maybe try hitting the installer again. I do it every so often when anomalies like that occur. Just have to resize the window again.
imho, not sure if it's worth worrying about though. I never found a use for VDAT as opposed to just recording in the DAW environment. Perhaps it's true about the sonic quality being superior though not that i'd be able to tell.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:58 am
by ronnie
Thank you to everyone in this thread! In 12 years I never used VDAT until today. Very nice device. Sonar does sound great also but this can come in very handy. Wish I tried it so many years ago, I'm sure the difference would have been quite noticeable. :-?

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:02 am
by bosone
I hate you! :D
why yours are working and mine is not!?!?!??! :cry:

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:03 am
by Music Manic
bosone wrote:I hate you! :D
why yours are working and mine is not!?!?!??! :cry:
Which version of windows and scope are you using? It really does work and I recommend you use it. Try getting a fresh Vdat file maybe it's corrupt or you're using the wrong version.

Re: how do I use the VDAT??

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:58 pm
by ronnie
Took these of my working 5.1 Win 64 7:
VDATx64.zip
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