Any news about a 64-bit version for windows?

[Chthonian]

Any news about a 64-bit version for windows?
this wait is terrible

[siriusbliss]

no news.
maybe 'soon'

Greg

[johndunn]

Has anyone tried running Scope v5 in Win7-64, in XP compatibility mode? I understand that runs as a VM, so it might work. Maybe.

[kylie]

Has anyone tried running Scope v5 in Win7-64, in XP compatibility mode? I understand that runs as a VM, so it might work.

if it works as vm (I somehow remember you're right with that) it won't have access to the real hardware, and thus it won't work.

[ARCADIOS]

unfortunatelly

it does not run on 7 64bit.

the hardware does not have the appropriate 64bit drivers.

[netguyjoel]

I don't think you will see a 64 bit version until v5.0 for PCI & XITE-1 is finished, debugged, FX & synths completely optimized for less DSP consumption...in other words..."soon"....but when it does arrive...you will see a many users going 64 bit, when a stable Scope driver comes available...

[siriusbliss]

As the whole industry goes 64-bit, so will Sonic Core - all timed I presume to land along with Windows 7, more new PCI-e motherboards handling more than 8G RAM, more TRUE 64-bit hosts (and VST's that can actually run on 64-bit), and even graphics cards - all arriving over the next year or so.

Early adopters are still very much in the minority, but everyone is working on it nonetheless.

Greg

[at0m]

Please, when I enter this forum I expect to see Announcements, not cries for support.

[cortone]

I agree.

Surely, this is wishful thinking on our part, though?

Cory

[nunziata]

Hello,
this is essential for the revival of sonic core.
thank in advance

[kylie]

Hello,
this is essential for the revival of sonic core.
thank in advance

what about bugging and / or asking S|C? there is no point in telling us...
(neither we can tell you anything about a release or not nor can we do it by ourselves. got the message, everybody?)

-greetings, markus-

[braincell]

It's not early. Most computers have been 64 bit for years. Vista 64 bit came out 4 years ago and Cubase is the most popular sequencer software and is comes with the 64 bit version. SC should have been ready for Cubase from day one of the release. In order to use more than 3 gigs of RAM, users would have to dump the SFP like I did. The reason we don't have 64 bit drivers is because of Xite-1 development. The Xite has been a fiasco for the Scope community.

As the whole industry goes 64-bit, so will Sonic Core - all timed I presume to land along with Windows 7, more new PCI-e motherboards handling more than 8G RAM, more TRUE 64-bit hosts (and VST's that can actually run on 64-bit), and even graphics cards - all arriving over the next year or so.

Early adopters are still very much in the minority, but everyone is working on it nonetheless.

Greg

[garyb]

[siriusbliss]

It's not early. Most computers have been 64 bit for years. Vista 64 bit came out 4 years ago and Cubase is the most popular sequencer software and is comes with the 64 bit version. SC should have been ready for Cubase from day one of the release. In order to use more than 3 gigs of RAM, users would have to dump the SFP like I did. The reason we don't have 64 bit drivers is because of Xite-1 development. The Xite has been a fiasco for the Scope community.

As the whole industry goes 64-bit, so will Sonic Core - all timed I presume to land along with Windows 7, more new PCI-e motherboards handling more than 8G RAM, more TRUE 64-bit hosts (and VST's that can actually run on 64-bit), and even graphics cards - all arriving over the next year or so.

Early adopters are still very much in the minority, but everyone is working on it nonetheless.

Greg

BC, I presume you're not a developer.
RME and others have just implemented 64-bit PCI and Firewire drivers over the past couple months - as mentioned on their forums - all timed for W7 and Leopard. One of the RME guys at NAMM told me that 64-bit will be 'towards 3rd or 4th quarter to time for 64-bit OS releases'.
And I don't need to get a MOTU or other card just for a 64-bit driver, when all the converters and internal processing is the same as before.

Cubase is not really the most popular sequencer, and additionally a Cakewalk guy slipped to me at NAMM that Sonar's supposed 64-bit is only at the front-end of the program (in order to handle more RAM for plugins, etc.), and that NO DAW out there yet is fully 64-bit all the way through. There are still 32-bit bridges and such happening at this point.
Even Cockos/Reaper and Magix/Samplitude-Sequoia are acknowledging this.

Again, if you've dumped SFP, then why are you here? You're already running W7/Cubase/64-bit with another interface anyways, right?

And what does Scope have to do with how much RAM you have in your system for ROMplers/Samplers, and big juicy projects?

I could be mistaken, but I believe 64-bit will arrive at just the right timing.

And the notion that Xite has been a 'fiasco' is your opinion at this point. The DSP's are down-scalable later on for smaller products in the future. S/C gets things running in Xite, and it should trickle down to other products so that people only need to get half-Xited . For a small company to focus one product that is scalable is a good approach. I've been there many, many times. As has been discussed many times, for S/C to just sell off old Creamware inventory, with older DSPs, with new drivers, and V5 environment apparently does not have enough longevity in S/C's eyes. So at this point we are where we're at.

Greg

[braincell]

I'm here because I am a Scope owner waiting for the 64 bit drivers which should have been released. You forgot Echo Audio which went 64 bit way long ago and Sonar is *not* a professional level sequencing program. I don't consider Reason and Sonar to be real musicians programs. People who tell you stuff about programs are just jealous and they don't know what they are talking about. The whole point of NAMM is to bullshit people that they have a great product and all the others suck. Use Cubase 64 bit with 8 gigs of RAM like I do then get back to me. Early on in Creamware development I was the only one who predicted their financial demise so I think I have a better track record than you do at judging these things.

[garyb]

[dawman]

I agree w/ Braincell, it should have been released long ago so I could go through the hassles of trying to figure out why it doesn't work instead of playing and recording.
It's a real drag having stable hardware and software, I have to actually earn my money.
I could take hour long breaks and blame everything on the computer, then come back and do 2 songs and take another break.
SC better hurry up before I sell the XITE-1 and get all of the NI stuff. Well the way my luck is, their Windows 7 64bit & Mac OSX will work flawlessley and I'll be fucked...

Oooops.....It's stage time, I better go and play before they think I am using a 64bit app.

[siriusbliss]

I'm here because I am a Scope owner waiting for the 64 bit drivers which should have been released. You forgot Echo Audio which went 64 bit way long ago and Sonar is *not* a professional level sequencing program. I don't consider Reason and Sonar to be real musicians programs. People who tell you stuff about programs are just jealous and they don't know what they are talking about. The whole point of NAMM is to bullshit people that they have a great product and all the others suck. Use Cubase 64 bit with 8 gigs of RAM like I do then get back to me. Early on in Creamware development I was the only one who predicted their financial demise so I think I have a better track record than you do at judging these things.

So, if you know everything, and know the future of S/C, then again, why are you here?
You coulda sold your Scope stuff long ago.

And at NAMM back in '99, I was one of the few who confronted Creamware on crappy drivers and poor DSP implementation, but I also knew where they could take it.

I've been around hardware design down to the nanometer level for almost 30 years now, and have worked with many developers over the years, and I still say S/C is on the right track.

Not that anyone cares - we're apparently all suckers.

Greg

[braincell]

Well what you find out when you have more RAM, is that your computer is more stable. Sadly, SC isn't aware that most of us use other programs and plugins besides theirs.

[garyb]

i'd like to see a 64 bit version, and i think that we will, but no, there's no news yet.