Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

Post by ensoniqeps »

Hallo all!

I today received my keyfile for v5.0 and I could install it without malfunctions, but:

* I cannot use STS-5000 sampler (which I could in v4.5)
* The Pro-12 synth is not installed either (which it was in v4.5)
* Worst of all, I cannot load a project created in v4.5. The synths (Uknow 007 for example), the mixer (2448) and more asks for licensefile whereafter I point to my new v5.0 regfile. In the end, the Scope-application crashes!!

What do I do wrong? I thought old projects were compatible with v5.0?
Should I point somehow on my old Scope.rgy from v4.5? That seems a little bit odd....

Please help me out!

Marcus, Sweden
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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not a magic solution, but look for profit-5, not pro-12.
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Same problem as ensoniqeps - all devices contained in v4.5 projects request license key - importing the v5 key succeeds each time but after ten or more instances of importing the key, Scope shuts down.
So I wonder why some are able to load old projects?

/dave
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Maybe I am to uninstall v4.5 from the computer?

Now I just have installed v5.0 in a separate folder than v.4.5
Can there be mishaps if I don't uninstall v4.5 before installing v5.0?

But I want to make sure before I remove v4.5 that everything in my old projects (I have plenty!!!) are compatible with the new v5.0.

Anyone?
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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dbmac wrote:Same problem as ensoniqeps - all devices contained in v4.5 projects request license key - importing the v5 key succeeds each time but after ten or more instances of importing the key, Scope shuts down.
So I wonder why some are able to load old projects?

/dave
The reason for this is (i think) that the modules like minimax etc require new keys and the projekt you are loading (the 4.5) still points to the modules in the old installation.I had this too when i used the file browser and tried to pull the optimaster in the routing window from the old install...that doesnt work. :)
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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I installed it first on one PC containing a Luna card only. Works well, I must say. Seems to work faster. Will continue installing v5 on a second PC containing the pulsar cards.
Based on my first hour´s experience:
Apps that come with the v5 installation work fine as long as you have the proper keys. Other apps report missing files, basically meaning that I have to re-install them.

Sofar, not too bad
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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I still don't get why some v5 installations will load v4.5 projects and others won't.

There is also the devices not included with the installer - Dynatube, BX-Digital, GOST-HarmonicEffects, Osiris etc. - the .oxe file method doesn't work with v5 so a manual file copy from the 4.5 installation is necessary. This involves many files, not just dev & dsp. There's dll, vxd, sys, probably others - I see there's not even a Vxd directory in Scope5 so its not clear which files are safe to copy over, if any.

It doesn't seem like Scope5 is quite ready for prime time yet, I'm using Acronis to roll back to a WORKing system.
I'll let you guys sort out the migrating 4.5 to v5 issues.

/dave
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dbmac wrote:I still don't get why some v5 installations will load v4.5 projects and others won't.

There is also the devices not included with the installer - Dynatube, BX-Digital, GOST-HarmonicEffects, Osiris etc. - the .oxe file method doesn't work with v5 so a manual file copy from the 4.5 installation is necessary. This involves many files, not just dev & dsp. There's dll, vxd, sys, probably others - I see there's not even a Vxd directory in Scope5 so its not clear which files are safe to copy over, if any.

It doesn't seem like Scope5 is quite ready for prime time yet, I'm using Acronis to roll back to a WORKing system.
I'll let you guys sort out the migrating 4.5 to v5 issues.

/dave
No issues here.Even loading dynatube works.It gives a few "cant read xxxxxxx" messages but works fine after that.
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Hallo all!

Now I tried to temporarily rename my old v4.5 folder and tell v5.0 just to search in the new v5.0 folder and HEUREKA! It seems to work.

The Pro-12 synth I point to Profit-5 instead, and it loads.

So far so good.

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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Fluxpod wrote: No issues here.Even loading dynatube works.It gives a few "cant read xxxxxxx" messages but works fine after that.
Where (directories) did you install Scope5? Have you copied any files from your 4.5 install to the v5 ?

Thanks,

/dave
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dbmac wrote:
Fluxpod wrote: No issues here.Even loading dynatube works.It gives a few "cant read xxxxxxx" messages but works fine after that.
Where (directories) did you install Scope5? Have you copied any files from your 4.5 install to the v5 ?

Thanks,

/dave
Standart dir that was prechoosen in the installer.I didnt copy any files from the old install.Just added the flexor 1.5 files.The free devices get pulled from the file browser and the dynatube processors get also pulled from the file browser.They complain about some file but they do work.You could also redl the nokey oxe files i guess.The other devices that do need keys cant be pulled from the filebrowser which is obvious due to the changed copy protection.Even the das verbs work but i get a warning that a unregistered device has been detected and that i should register it please .
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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I tried with .oxe files (had to create the app/Oxe dir) but no result, likewise with dbl-clicking an oxe.
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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Tried to pull the dynatube stuff from the filebrowser? Doesnt ask for keys here.
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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When i load Dynatube i get loads of script missing errors. It says it's missing ST Guitar Rack. Not sure what that is where i would put it. Whenever i try to import the key file it makes no difference.
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Mr Arkadin wrote:When i load Dynatube i get loads of script missing errors. It says it's missing ST Guitar Rack. Not sure what that is where i would put it. Whenever i try to import the key file it makes no difference.
Yes i get those too but they do work here.Have you tried them?
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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In bygone days whenever I did a fresh Scope installation I would afterwards copy the contents of my previous install dirs - Devices, Dsp, Vxd, Presets, then re-run the new installer and everything worked.

I'm waiting to hear if this is appropriate with Scope5 - the new installation doesn't even have any vxd files.
Also, does the cset.ini require the [boardID] edits for multiple boards?

/dave
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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i also have problems in loading old projects, mainly regarding continuous asking for keys and then it doensn load all the modules..
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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one can rename the old folder....
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yes, renaming the old folder seems to work!
thanks!
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Re: Cannot load v4.5 projects into v5.0

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:D I send my bug report to sonic core and ... New key !!! sts 5000 work. Can't try for the other stuff (i don't have it)
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