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vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:30 am
by ARCADIOS
are there problems when running 32bit applications in a 64bit os?
what are the pros/cons?
are 32bit apps faster in a 32bit os?
i already have 8gigs of ram on mobo that supports it and i would be very interested in making this big step from 32 to 64bit
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:15 am
by astroman
there is no big step between the two
it will just allow to code even more sluggishly because the memory is available.
LMAO a couple of time recently when peeking at Mac OSX memory allocation on the office(!) boxes... a wordprocessor with 2G of virtual memory allocated - wtf

they will exhaust it as quickly as all the other 'evolutions' from 640k, 4MB, 32, 512, 1G, 2...
some stuff (like huge files) will gain, other will loose because of 'padding' the unneeded memory bits
cheers, Tom
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:00 am
by Shroomz~>
I wouldn't go for Vista at all, unless you've already jumped the gun & heavily invested in it.
XP32 & 64 are still outperforming Vista in DAW benchmarks. If anyone has seen evidence published that's to the contrary, please post a link or details.
Mark
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:02 am
by Shroomz~>
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:27 am
by Cochise
Just... looks like Xp isn't available any longer for sale...
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:30 am
by garyb
sure it is.
-btw i've been writing and talking about the incestious relationship between M$ and cakewalk here for some time...
Arcadios, you keep trying to trick your system into doing more and more, which makes it never work. why not accept the limitations and realize that even with those limitations, your rig is more powerful than almost ANY studio from the 1980's or 90's....
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:42 am
by ARCADIOS
ok garyb, you are right.
maybe my system is faster than any studio of 1880s or 1890s but thats not the point.
i just try to make it better. what should i do with the rest 4gigs i have?
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:45 am
by Shroomz~>
Maybe you could train the xtra RAM to make coffee?

Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:48 am
by garyb
don't buy things just for fun.
you can have a stable dependable system that does a specific job very well or a toy to tinker with. either way, i'm not judging you, it's your choice which you prefer. it's possible to be mislead by sales-hype though, that's for sure...
...and your system is more powerful, not necessarily faster. some things that are supposed to be timesaving, like tons of automation and off line bounces are actually time wasters and some things like the handling of tape/media and editing are MUCH faster....
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:49 am
by ARCADIOS
i train them to be seen by a 32bit os

Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:54 am
by garyb
and what will that do if the bottleneck is not ram or disk? the extra will just be a waste and a destabilizer as well. plus, you'll need a management program running in the backround that will eat cpu cycles.
this is kinda like the cars we used to build as kids. they were hella fast and loud, but crappy as day to day transport, and the cost of tires was unbelievable....
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:04 am
by ARCADIOS
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:09 pm
by Cochise
Sorry, but going with the MS website Xp ISN'T available any longer.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx
Nevertheless I would like to try Xp 64 with some video apps..
Ramdisk

Maybe OSs will evolve togheter with deep changes in the hardware architecture in the future..
Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:05 pm
by astroman
Ramdisks are prohibited by harddisk manufacturers ...
... or would you expect something that worked perfectly 20 years ago couldn't be made running today ?
cheers, Tom

Re: vista 64bit and 32 bit applications
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:59 pm
by garyb
Cochise wrote:Sorry, but going with the MS website Xp ISN'T available any longer.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-xp/future.aspx
Nevertheless I would like to try Xp 64 with some video apps..
Ramdisk

Maybe OSs will evolve togheter with deep changes in the hardware architecture in the future..
you can still find it in shops, however....