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Tempo Track Help Needed

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:39 pm
by dawman
Well I am back again.

One final little plea I'm afraid.

But this will complete my project if I figure it out.

I have suceeded in copying the desired drum takes to their places, thanks to all who helped.

It's a 3 bar ritardando. I need to apply a Tempo Track, but I don't understand the manual as usual.

Do I need to add a track, and then change the BPM amounts per beat?

When I try to view the Tempo track and right click on the measure I wish to apply this to, I see no options for placement.

Once Aagain I beg. :-?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:29 pm
by andredb
maybe i missed something... but you mean in a sequencer?? which one?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:31 pm
by dawman
Yeah Sorry Bout' That Cheif.

Cubase 4.0.

It's overwhelming my lame ass as we speak.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:53 pm
by garyb
on the transport, where the tempo can be entered, there is the word "fixed" or "tempo"(maybe it's "track"). click on the word to toggle. if you want to use the tempo track, it needs to be on the second choice(not fixed).

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:00 pm
by dawman
I have proceeded there , thanks. But do you need to add a track maybe?

I have had a couple of crashes due to me moving a slider for speed in the tempo track window.

Should I add a MIDI track and open a tempo maybe?


Thanks Brotha' Man GaryB.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:13 pm
by dawman
Merge Tempo Track looked as though it might work, but doesn't.

I just don't understand why Steinberg can take a simple percentage based function and overbloat it to become a complicated issue.

Hardware sequencers just add or subtract a percentage wherever you place them. Cubase appears to do this tapping a tempo on the space bar.

At first I thought this would work, as it seemed to be a good idea, but it appears to be directly made for audio.

This is a composers tool, it must have a simple answer.

I shall continue to frustrate myself and totally ruin my musical workflow, as that is obviously what is required for this simple task. As a last result I will record it by using our supposedly imperfect timing and ears.

Surely this has been done before as it is a normal way of composing realistic ritards in hardware sequencers.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:12 pm
by garyb
it's pretty easy to change tempos and program changes.

open the tempo track with cntrl+t or in the project menu choose tempo track.
there is a blue line that indicates the current tempo. at the top of the tempo track window(it's a seperate window) there's a pencil tool. using the pencil tool, you can draw in whatever curve you wish. you can zoom in or out for more or less resolution. the tempo track window cursor will follow the arrange window cursor if you have that function(autoscroll) enabled. there is also a snap and other types of automated tempo adjustments available in that window.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:44 pm
by dawman
Now that is complicated. But what a logical way to add a ritard to a MIDI track.

Thanks.

I shall go back after it now.

I had to start jammin' to conceal my anger for a while. ( Plan B )

Thanks 2U I will proceed with Plan A. :D


Truly,

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:41 pm
by dawman
I am still struggling but everything you described is now before me in a window.

One thing I am happy about is the way I can do my favorite automation controls that I used a hardware sequencer for on analog synths, I can now do in Cubase. I always would play my parts and have the QX-1 do filter sweeps using resonance / cutoffs, and LFO's. In this way the band would still be in touch w/ meter but would not restrict our arrangements.

Thanks 4 Your Help, I'll get it sooner or later tonight.

The more I learn on Cubase, the less I hate it. :D

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:05 pm
by hubird
there will be a moment you get used to the way Cubase works.
At some point you find things out by yourself because you know where to look and how to insert actions.
Don't hesitate to use the help function, type in your key word and there it is already :-)

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:26 am
by borg
Jimmy, I know this isn't gonna help, but you seem the perfect Ableton Live guy... :)

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:55 am
by dawman
Brotha' Man Stardust,

I thought you enjoyed them, they seem to help you in your quest of being " The Most Posted Guy "?

Your vast knowledge and " Googling " skills are duly noted.

I even saw you partaking in a misplaced topic last week w/o a snide remark, so I feel priveleged knowing that you are my " special moderator ".

I am only sad that you work so hard for free.

I just posted in the OT, better hurry and get down there B4 someone else does. :D

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:25 pm
by dawman
Alrighty Then.

I was mis percieving your intentions. My apologies.

I can always handle rejection, it's a way of life.

Let us proceed. :wink:

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:17 pm
by dawman
Your example of sharing and help is appreciated.

I look forward to your next lesson.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:19 pm
by dawman
Yeah,

Maybe on Planet Stardust.

Thankfully I learn here, and will continue to.

Thanks for keeping this alive and at he top of the thread for me, it helped with the pm's where members prefer to avoid your " sharing and help ".

You should really get out more Brotha'.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:10 pm
by hubird
stardust wrote:There are so many useless posts sometimes.
The only relevant question is if the quote was meant generally or more specificly towards someone in particular.
I hate vagueness :-D

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:04 am
by Shroomz~>
Hey, what's going on here then? Do I detect a hint of Mr Funny getting arsey? :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:49 am
by wayne
I can confidently say i'm not sure i know what you're talking about lately, stardust (regarding Jim).

What is it? A problem?

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:06 am
by dawman
It's my lack of knowledge that's the problem.

Stardust is right, I should read the 388 page manual a few more times before asking my Brotha's for help.

I apologise. :(

At the end of the day I suceeded in my endeavors thanks to fellow members.

Hearing multiple Bowen synths simultaneously was worth the torment of using Cubase 4.0.

I will continue to do this privately, and then post the results as it is more helpful for other members this way.


Cheers Mate. :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:49 am
by hubird
scope4live wrote:Stardust is right, I should read the 388 page manual a few more times before asking my Brotha's for help.
I don't think that's the problem :-)