External synths/fx Do you still use them?

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External synths/fx Do you still use them?

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I have just put a post in the "Scope Purchasing" forum as I have some gear that I haven't used for years and need some bits to add to my computer setup - Creamware/UAD/Powercore cards/A16 Ultra. The trouble is everytime I think about getting rid of this stuff, I start getting all emotional and start thing about how will I feel in say, a year or two's time when I suddenly get that yearning to wire up all my old gear and it's no longer there. Would I ever get this urge if I don't sell it? I must admit, I got out my Supernova the other day, for the first time in about 5 years. Switched it on, played through some of the sounds, tweaked some of the parameters and was completely underwhelmed. I always remembered it as sounding pretty damn good! I really want to get out the Pulse+ I really loved using it's audio inputs. Really mad sounds!! And the RV-4 Linking up all those internal effects and being able to mix them in so many different ways via the many input/output configurations. But my current setup is just not suited to using this stuff now. And I really love being able to switch on my PC and load up a song I did a few months ago and have it all there in front of me. Plus the incredible, almost instant, routing options that a DAW provides is fantastic. Especially with the quality and flexibility of the Scope environment. Plus there are other DSP cards that can be used aswell that give me the options of using fx/instruments which are as "good" as external hardware. Plus there are some great VST plugins out there. And it's all so much cheaper than most hardware. And it takes up less room! :)

Do you Zers still use your external hardware? Have you sold and regretted it? Do you have much stuff stored away?
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I have a whole room full of synths, and hardware FX. And still route both into SFP. I only use 1 x hardware analog synth, and a couple FX. But they save me from having to use software reverbs that clog up the sink too much for my tastes, and the real analog mono lead / bass / SFX synth just makes Solaris, and Prowave all that more obese. I heard the 4080 for the first time and liked it, but it ain't no Lexicon.

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first of all:
if you sell module 'A' for 500,- dollar, you will probably be able to buy the same module back one year later for less.
Don't fear spring cleaning, you can't go wrong :-)

secondly: if you still valuate the 'hands on' aspect, you will probably want to keep a few hardware knobs.
If you at the same time appreciate so much the totall recall concept of your DAW, you just have to decide for the right hardware gear then.

Sell what you can miss, and buy what you wanne have.
I got my hands on two Elektron machines, I sold some stuff, but I'll keep the old Virus-A. Those three should do it.

If I was you, I would keep the Supernova, as you seem to feel home with it.
Keep only as much synths as your DAW studio setup can handle, without getting a museum.
In other words, outputs missing instant entry to your mixing DAW should leave the studio...unless you are rich, and even then :-)
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Still using lots of hardware here... if anything I use more hardware now than ever before. I am selective though... I'm only into machines which have character and some unique quality (including Scope :) I don't think I could ever sell my Rhodes, MKS80, technics turntables, Kurz 2500, Emax or hardware outboard processors. I also prefer audio which has been brought into the real world rather than clinical digital audio. That's just me though, this is pretty subjective. Having said all this, I do clear out stuff I'm not using, although I find it really hard to sell vintage stuff or stuff that's not made any more. I have a few things up on ebay at the moment actually, I should really put a post in the Purchasing forum.

If I was you I'd keep the Pulse Plus at least...
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I really have to agree regarding the Pulse Plus. It's a keeper :) We've got a Waldorf Pulse & Rack Attack & they are awsome sounding machines. I'[ve seen myself being astonished by the sound of both of them.

Selling your studio gear is such a personal thing, but as a general rule sharc & I are trying to hold onto a balanced mix of analogue & digital synth & drum hardware. The reality of it is though, that the digital gear we have is all steadily depreciating in value & will continue to do so, while the analogue synths & drum machines we have are more than likely going to go up in value as they become more rare to find in good working shape. On the other hand, the digital hardware is likely to last longer than the analogue before needing repairs & servicing. :roll:
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With a few exceptions hardware still sounds better than software, also hardware will never bomb and works with any OS and has no DRM! It will not tax your computer much to input it. I'm moving back to hardware but I am not giving up my software. One day new software and newer computers will be better than hardware. That day has not come! The music quality is generally more important than fidelity but having said that, A great pro studio with a good or superb engineer is soooooo much better than home recording. If you disagree with this, I feel sorry for you because you are such a moron in my opinion, or perhaps you don't have experience to know.
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Post by darkrezin »

nice

hesnotthemessiah - back to the Pulse Plus... I'm not sure if you've ever looked, but the Plus version almost never appears on the used market. Therefore I think it's an investment that isn't worth cashing in right now. Waldorf won't ever make them again. I would venture to say though that the other stuff will probably not hold its value.
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Hey museums are nice. Plus the spider webs look really cool on older synths. I did a Halloween gig last year @ the dance club, and these girls sprayed the stage w/ fake spider webs, etc. I was using the Oberheims still and they looked spectacular. I actually felt like I was playing in a cocoon.

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i'm thinking about selling a bunch of audio hardware. it's still good and it gets used occasionally(when i remember and think "oh yeah, that's a cool piece, i guess i'll use that for fun this time") and it's all very good stuff, but i really don't need it, scope works pretty much as well and is much more convienient and i'm thinking i can use the space and money more....
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I have an Access Virus C, Clavia NordLead2 and Roland Jp 8000
now I ve got lot of prob because I just have 1 in on my Luna II,,,I think I ll buy the a16 in & out even I do know if it s worxxx with luna II
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7skies wrote:I have an Access Virus C, Clavia NordLead2 and Roland Jp 8000
now I ve got lot of prob because I just have 1 in on my Luna II,,,I think I ll buy the a16 in & out even I do know if it s worxxx with luna II
The A16Ultra is my next purchase. Can't wait to get my Pulse Plus out, put some sounds through it's audio inputs and start moving those knobs! Maybe another card with some anlogue ins might be a better idea - more inputs for your gear plus more DSP! I think the Scope Professional cards can be bought for about £750-£800 new or you can get some good deals here or eBay. I would think about that myself but I haven't got any spare PCI slots left. Or the extra £400 for a Scope Professional :(
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Sadly the Luna uses a Firewire interface with a proprietary converter!
7skies wrote:I have an Access Virus C, Clavia NordLead2 and Roland Jp 8000
now I ve got lot of prob because I just have 1 in on my Luna II,,,I think I ll buy the a16 in & out even I do know if it s worxxx with luna II
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I`ve only outdated machines wich I hardly use at the moenmt (eg. yam cs1x, qm raven, mam mb33-2) .But I still use my Digtech Quad 4 and the behringer modulizer and some of the fxy buit in my roland vm-3100 pro, because my computer reaches the cpu max very fast when it comes to extensive fx usage.
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