WHO is John Amolof ?

breitner · Post by **breitner** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:59 am

No April Fools day prank, you can see for yourself that the Creamware ftp site now includes a new folder:
ftp://ftp.creamware.de/Software/Scope_f ... ohnAmolof/

the question is who is John and what are these devices?

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:08 am

did you install them ?

breitner · Post by **breitner** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:34 am

Harmany wrote:did you install them ?

No, I don't think I can. Intriguiing isn't it?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:02 am

they are real - you could peek at them during Messe...

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:11 am

new software!

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:23 am

just tryed to install them and in fact these are new synths....

seems to be no april, the 1st joke....

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:32 am

Yes, it appears there are 3 new synth devices. I had a quick peek at them during Messe. I don't know who he is, but it would appear John Amolov understands how to use the SDK pretty well.
There's still some issues with these devices, as they are not quite ready for 'prime time' I was told, but it's exciting to see a new developer come along!

cheers,
john b

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:42 am

I think they look amazing!

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:06 am

we remember,
this one was made by fra77x

now the design of the nord looks a hell lot better.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:06 am

can't say the fake 3d-ness of it all looks very appealing to me.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:12 am

I somewhere agree, but I would like to demo their sound....

Tau · Post by **Tau** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:42 am

They look great! I had seen the files before, but had no idea of what they were... Nice to see a multitimbral synth in here, could be very useful to load many sounds in one preset... kind of Novation-looking, too...

Post by **irrelevance** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:56 am

Tau wrote:They look great! I had seen the files before, but had no idea of what they were... Nice to see a multitimbral synth in here, could be very useful to load many sounds in one preset... kind of Novation-looking, too...

Yeh the second one down reminds me of the nova desktop.
I like the design too. Thanks Harmany.

Ed · Post by Ed » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:16 pm

Yep. Design goes further.

Did anyone play 'em? It asks me for dsp files which I have not. Same to you?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:34 pm

I`m really interested if they have Analog circuit modeled filters in them , like Minimax or Prodyssey....

but I`m sure its more or less the standard CW ones from how it looks like...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:26 pm

well, I have Vectron, Celmo's PPGhost and Bluewave, Zarg's QWave and Wavelenth Avalon - which all focus on the same Waldorf wavetable oscillators - and they all sound completely different.
The most stunning (difference) is between the 2 Celmo synths, as it's even the same developer

I originally didn't want to buy the QWave, as I thought the Solaris WT oscillators would be more or less identical. Wrong - when I listened to some QWave demo sounds, the thing was sold on me immediately.

'standard' and 'stock' are rather negative attributes, I bet noone (except a professional sound designer) can afford the time to explore even 25% of the possibilities (for example) the software Solaris offers.
That's why people want new devices and presets, presets, presets

I only heard a few short sequences from those new devices - and it was very difficult with all the noise around on Messe, but what arrived at my ear did sound very, very good

cheers, Tom

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:20 am

how do you install these thingies, and how do you get the dsp files?
I WANT THEM I WANT THEM!

faxinadu · Post by **faxinadu** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:46 am

hifiboom wrote:I`m really interested if they have Analog circuit modeled filters in them , like Minimax or Prodyssey....

but I`m sure its more or less the standard CW ones from how it looks like...

i am intrested to know as well... always wondered how much of the synths is just patching of things we (mostly) have in modular, or unique synthesis ideas.

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:03 am

so now CW modelize synth that modelize analog??? As I remember Clavia synth use AD dsp too, so maybe it's just a port of the great Nord and novation Nova...

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:16 am

faxinadu wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I`m really interested if they have Analog circuit modeled filters in them , like Minimax or Prodyssey....

but I`m sure its more or less the standard CW ones from how it looks like...
i am intrested to know as well... always wondered how much of the synths is just patching of things we (mostly) have in modular, or unique synthesis ideas.

CW call their high-end stuff in their manuals as analog circuit modelling, claiming that the synths sound the same as their analog counterparts when setting the knobs/faders at the same setting.
I think this only applies to Prodyssey (awsome filter), Minimax and maybe the Pro-12 ( i don`t know )
On the fx side its Vinco Compressor. They all sound impressivly good.

all the other devices from what I know were not constructed with this background... although they sound good too.

I`m not sure but these three devices do not look like exact 1:1 copys of real stuff...
I`m sure they have the same architecture, but maybe not an 1:1 sound of the original synth...

Although I think the Nord emulation will sound relative close to the real thing as the nord modular atoms have a similar sound to the creamware stuff.

The advantage with the CW stuff is that all the modules are of very high quality, so even mod patches and self constructed synth without special engineering sound very good, too.