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Midi Alternator (multi output cycler)

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:39 am
by djmicron
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Hi there,
i was inspired by the midi output cycler discussion thread and this is the result of one day of work.
The device is still under development, so every suggestion, bug report is welcome.

The midi alternator lets you cycle midi messages to up to 16 outputs and everytime you play a note the used midi output will be the next, so if you choose to use 5 cycles, every note played will use outputs 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 and so on.

I'm working to implement the option of splitting chords in single sequenced notes, but at the moment if you play for example 3 notes, the midi alternator will play the chord on the active output and then it will jump 3 outputs on.

You have the option of changing the midi channel on every single output by entering the channel number and you can also transpose the note by entering negative or positive values (up to +/- 48)

There is a dsp file to place inside you dsp folder.

Best regards

mIcron

updates:

v0.6 solved the note off issue, now every time a new note is pressed the previous stops immediately
v0.6b the device was opened by default on the second screen, this has caused problems on certain systems, solved.

24Dec 2006
device deleted (an explanation will come shortly)

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:47 pm
by paulrmartin
And it puts out one note per output? Can't wait to try it!

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:48 pm
by paulrmartin
Just tried it.

What I need is for this tool to split chords and sustain the notes on each channel.
Not just alternate channels,

Example: a three-note chord, C-E-G, would come out this way:

C -> ch.1 -> ch.2->ch.3
E -> ch.2 -> ch.3->ch.1
G -> ch.3 -> ch.1->ch.2

and so forth

You understand what I mean? :)

I do have a very old example of the sound I am after but I closed down my website and don't think I should post it in the Music threads.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:36 pm
by djmicron
i understand that you want to split chords, but it's not totally clear how the order of outputs is managed in your example.
And another thing i don't understand is about sustain, because if note are sustained, we loose the cycling effect and in that case could have more sense to do another device that will let you split a chord to several midi outputs, but without the cycling effect and where you can manually assign the midi output for each note.
Just to be clear, everytime you press a note, you will have control on the next midi output, so the sustain will have effect until you release the key.
At the moment the midi alternator is a sort of multi output arpeggiator.
I'm working on possible variations...

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:42 am
by paulrmartin
djmicron wrote:i understand that you want to split chords, but it's not totally clear how the order of outputs is managed in your example.
I realise now that order is not a total necessity. Randomness is desirable in my case.
djmicron wrote:And another thing i don't understand is about sustain, because if note are sustained, we loose the cycling effect and in that case could have more sense to do another device that will let you split a chord to several midi outputs, but without the cycling effect and where you can manually assign the midi output for each note.
Actually, that could work. The chord splitter out to multiple alternators with outputs pushed down on each next alternator. The sustain is only until the next note is struck, you're right. So outputs need to be monophonic like your present device.
djmicron wrote:Just to be clear, everytime you press a note, you will have control on the next midi output, so the sustain will have effect until you release the key.
Exactly right!
djmicron wrote:At the moment the midi alternator is a sort of multi output arpeggiator.
I'm working on possible variations...
And it works beutifullyl, thanks! :)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:31 am
by Lima
Thank you! I'll try it in the afternoon :-D

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:21 am
by djmicron
thanks to all testers,
after the paulmartin reply i have had a new illumination about possible improvements, i'll try it first......

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:55 am
by Shroomz~>
Thanks, this is really cool.

I wonder if it would be possible to make a midi-controlled audio channel cycler in a similar way. Something with say 4 inputs & 4 outputs that had a switchable cycling system allowing you to cycle the input or output chanels or both at the touch of a note. It would have several uses but mainly as a special effect. It needn't even necessarily be a 'cycler'. It could just be midi controlled ins & outs that only pass an audio signal when a specific midi note is received. Just an idea. Maybe we can already do this though.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:10 am
by djmicron
hi shroomz,
i'm thinking you are a medium, because i'm near to upload a device like a note controlled audio switch...... :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:18 am
by Shroomz~>
Micron, you are one of the Scope Jedi & the force is strong in you.

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:53 am
by borg
Shroomz wrote:I wonder if it would be possible to make a midi-controlled audio channel cycler in a similar way.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... highlight=



thanks for this device... will be lots of fun.

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:46 am
by Shroomz~>
Thanks for the link borg!

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:51 am
by gregaire
Hello !

does anyone own this device ?

and if you do, could you share it with me ?

pm me

pleeeeease !

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:12 am
by FrancisHarmany
yes....

exlpain....

why did you delete ? :D

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:25 am
by pollux
FrancisHarmany wrote:yes....

exlpain....

why did you delete ? :D
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... sc&start=0