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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:16 pm
by hifiboom
a plug-in that alters a wave form in this way:

okay I just painted roughly how the result should look

normal clipping

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valve distortion

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real picture of a processed bass kick:
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zoomed in:
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generating nice overtones...
nice for adding pressure to kicks, that will have much more presence in a mix. also nice on synths and any other sound....

I am sure it also works fine for guitar sounds etc.


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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:50 pm
by wayne
There is a valve drive module in Flexor, along with fat sat, guitar drive, soft sat, tape drive and warm sat.

You got Flexor?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:36 pm
by hubird
no, it's sat :grin:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:39 pm
by hubird
Hifi, or in this case lofi, don't tell me you don't know the heavy distorted 909 kick of say hardcore dance? :grin:
and everything in between :smile:
no offend, just kidding :grin:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:00 pm
by Lima
That behaviour remembers to me what's happen when you filter a saw using a low pass filter with a good amount of resonance... could be it a starting point to do a mod patch with the actual modules?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:50 pm
by hubird
that's pretty standard...no?

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:49 am
by hifiboom
On 2006-09-25 22:39, hubird wrote:
Hifi, or in this case lofi, don't tell me you don't know the heavy distorted 909 kick of say hardcore dance? :grin:
and everything in between :smile:
no offend, just kidding :grin:
you are right :smile:,
but it is a unique effect that will apply to many useful tasks.
I makes sounds sound like played over big speaker systems...

I have some very cool underground CDs in that department...

jeah and I don`t have flexor at the moment.

I checked the online Flexor manual and there seems to be nothing like this...
but maybe I am wrong...

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:16 am
by hifiboom
On 2006-09-26 00:00, Lima wrote:
That behaviour remembers to me what's happen when you filter a saw using a low pass filter with a good amount of resonance... could be it a starting point to do a mod patch with the actual modules?
if you look at normal bass kicks, they look like sine curves... ( last picture shows this )

There are added some extra higher frequencys at the beginning... in this example one at higher gain and one with lower gain....

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:33 am
by pollux
Hi,

Did you check Dynatubes?
I've been playing passing synths through them and it sounds *REALLY* phat :smile: (try passing a TB303 through a Mesa Boogey)

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:04 am
by hifiboom
thx for the info, rdavidovich!

would you mind processing a dry 909 kick drum and a synth with dynatube and sent it to me.
You know there are no demos....

I tired to achieve the results with native VST distortions but never come close...
But on the other hand I know that the VST (guitar) distortions are not that good.

I`m sure dynatube is one of the best in what it does.

And my desired effect seems to be best described by a tube sound...
Because tubes add overtones...

Maybe I should go with an external tube, like SPL Charisma....
or something like this.
Maybe even a cheap Behringer tube does the trick better than the VST fx...



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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:17 am
by astroman
the overtones is correct
the relation to tubes is a myth :wink:
it's all in the circuit design
(and of course one's imagination - running wild...)
maybe I should buy a Motown record on my way back from the city...

cheers, tom

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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:43 pm
by hifiboom
hey astro....

so if not tubes, what does deliver the overtones...

I`m sure there is an fx that does the trick...

here is some tubes analysed with OSC-scope:

http://www.diyguitarist.com/DIYStompbox ... eforms.htm

while it doesn`t look exactly the same, it seems to be similar...

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:50 pm
by garyb
the tqdrive can do that. the electro harmonix big muff pi makes a sine wave look exactly like that too. it's not a tube thing....

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:09 pm
by hifiboom
On 2006-09-27 14:50, garyb wrote:
the tqdrive can do that. the electro harmonix big muff pi makes a sine wave look exactly like that too. it's not a tube thing....
I`ve already tried TQDrive. While I like it its not eactly what I am looking for. I mean the results are close but still not there.

Thanks for that Electro Harmonix information. Maybe I`ll go and try it out.

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:25 pm
by pollux
On 2006-09-27 09:04, hifiboom wrote:
thx for the info, rdavidovich!

would you mind processing a dry 909 kick drum and a synth with dynatube and sent it to me.
You know there are no demos....

I tired to achieve the results with native VST distortions but never come close...
But on the other hand I know that the VST (guitar) distortions are not that good.

I`m sure dynatube is one of the best in what it does.

And my desired effect seems to be best described by a tube sound...
Because tubes add overtones...

Maybe I should go with an external tube, like SPL Charisma....
or something like this.
Maybe even a cheap Behringer tube does the trick better than the VST fx...



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If you want, send me some samples, like the kick, and I'll pass them through the different amps and send them back to you.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:11 am
by hifiboom
thx!
you got an email.
:smile:

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:18 am
by pollux
hifiboom wrote:thx!
you got an email.
:smile:
OK I didn't forget about this but I've been drawn with work...

I think you should definetly check out this new plugin made by Shroomz and sharc:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21014


could be *Exactly* what you're looking for