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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:11 pm
by zodiak
I have a problem with cracks - I use the creamware synths under xtc and have no problems,
but when I am under scope, I can play of the synths but there
are unceasingly cracks, mainly at the end of the notes under cubase
SX3.
- I tried to regulate latencies ULLI without success.
- similar for the audio priority in settings of ASIO SCOPE in cubase SX.
-I have another soundcard (terratec dmx6fire) but I do not use
this ASIO under cubase -
- all waves files or others vsti (arturia, reaktor...) plays with cracks under scope & SX3
- it does not have there crackings before I
launch scope and cubase - the mp3 function clearly front, but after
having closed scope and cubase, they continue to be made hear when I
read audio files
- when i am under cubase and scope, and that I want to import an audio file, the pre-listening of this one is also with
cracks
I'm going mad, who can help me? it would seem that it is the pilot ASIO SCOPE who functions badly.
my setup : windows XPpro, PIV 3.2, nvidia graphic card, dmx6fire...
thanks a lot
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:10 am
by astroman
On 2006-06-24 00:11, zodiak wrote:
... -I have another soundcard (terratec dmx6fire) but I do not use
this ASIO under cubase - ...
even if unusued, the dmx might still claim resources and interupts.
Soundcard manufacturers are generally focussed on 'their' product, with few concerns to cooperation.
I'd disable the Teratec card completely in device manager just to see if the system reacts to it (to avoid a complete uninstall and physical removement of the card)
Which chipset has your mobo ?
cheers, Tom
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:32 am
by zodiak
i have an asustek p4p800-E
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:53 am
by zodiak
the problem it is that the sound always passes by the dmx6fire.. is it normal? when I look at the graphics meters of the terratec and that
I play one creamware synth in cubase (under asio scope), the
graphics meters of the 6fire react, therefore the sound leaves well by the
terratec... i can't do otherwise because i have to connect my analog RCA to the terratec analogs outputs (for monitoring..)
(sorry for my bad english, i'm french...)
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:29 am
by zodiak
this morning i've changed PCI port for dmx6fire and pulsar... it's the same, cracks again...
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:21 am
by zodiak
i'm desactivate dm6fire in windows and after that when i launch scope, i have the following message : "attempted to open with an unsupported waveform audio format (this error message is put in a little windows call "extwav01")
and always when i launch scope with a basic project :"error : scope [2] MIDI A Source is not appropriate for your hardware" and again : "error : scope [2] MIDI A Dest is not appropriate for your hardware"
finally, with dmx6fire desactivate, can't hear nothing because i've no input/output on my pulsar, i've to use the dmx6fire for obtain sound !
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:45 am
by bronYaur
I have found some craking problems with DAW that have VGA like radeon or similar bat with NVIDIA generally all works fine,wich tipe of NVIDIA you have?
Use second or thirdy PCI slot ,generally these don't condivide nothing
Sorry for my english
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:04 am
by zodiak
i've a winfast geforce4 MX 4000 64mo...
i've tried to change PCI slot, nothing better...
.... but on the older versions of scope it was possible to choose the buffer in the settings on pulsar... why it can be possible now with the scope 4.0 ? I think it's can be the solution... because the "cracks" i hear is the same noise produced by a bad buffer size or a bad asio resolution... maybe it's that.... maybe others problems.... damn...
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:17 am
by garyb
go to start/accessories/system tools/system information/hardware resources/conflicts-sharing and see if the scope card shows up. if so, what is sharing with the scope card?
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:33 am
by zodiak
i can see :
pulsar is on IRQ 23 sharing with
another part call :
"controller PCI host to wide USB standard bus"
(i"ve translate the line as i can)
there are two material on IRQ 23 : the pulsar and this "controller PCI host.."
i can see too that my dmx6fire is alone on the IRQ 21
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:00 am
by zodiak
my project config :
thinking it was possible the problem source is the asio dest and source, i've change with asio1, asio2 in the routing, but nothing better...

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:08 pm
by astroman
do you route to the DMX via Soundcard Destination ?
then the crackle is normal as it's a very slow connection (old soundblaster standard) - you should also experience a significant loss in audio quality.
Sharing with an USB device is also very bad as USB generates lots of interupts even if nothing is connected to the port. Disable this USB, you probably have more than one (dunno that mobo in detail).
why don't you use Scope's Analog Out for monitoring ?
do you have the Adat only version ?
cheers, Tom
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:48 pm
by garyb
yes, it's either a master/slave issue with the ad/da converters on the adat lines or the usb shared irq. most likely, it's the shared irq. disable that port(there's a number by it) in the device manager...
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:31 pm
by zodiak
thanx
i've disable the sharing usb controller - now the pulsar is alone on IRQ 23
reboot and the problem is the same... cracks again
"why don't you use Scope's Analog Out for monitoring ?"
====} because i've no analog outputs or input on my pulsar xtc 2 ... nothing on the card no midi or RCA...
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:24 am
by astroman

so you've listened to that thing only through the 'soundcard destination' channel until now ?
just get an IO-plate and all your problems will be gone - and your ears will thank you, too
cheers, Tom
ps: with a little luck you can certainly pickup one really cheap. Some shops may have old stock, someone's card broke or another IO plate was aquired etc
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:29 am
by garyb
yes, astroman is right.
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:53 am
by zodiak
so... it's hard to find this classic io plate extension...
maybe if i try to install a basic luna card ? she have analog IO, and i will spending less or the same than the classic plate extension ?
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:47 am
by zodiak
i can read on a french forum that cracks can be the result of a master/slave config
i can put only my pulsar on "master", so maybe the cracks can found their origin in this config ? does the pulsar have to be put on "slave" and dmx6fire on "master" ?
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:54 am
by H-Rave
As you say just buy a luna,in france you can find them for 150 euros because nobody buys them,and you get three extra dsp's to work with.
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:58 am
by zodiak
ok...
thanks you a lot guys for your help !!!!
chris