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One step in right direction:
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=45641

maybe you want the second best, then it might be best

Why would you want to use a chipset which is rushed to market? Intel spends an enormous amount of money on R&D and testing. I considered AMD out of hatred for Intel back in PII days, but I only thank them for bringing the price down 300-400% since then. I built my son a great video/game box, since Alienware is way overpriced, and even with games the NF4 chokes, but that's not common. But for audio, I would only build an AMD box out of revenge or something. I am still waiting for 64 bit drivers to mature.

Agree - scope4live
But, since i needed a new "surfer-pc" i decided to use AMDx2 and nF4.
Soon it has been running for 1 month.
Verry quiet, higest temp jet is 45C on CPU, overclocked. Now it runs 38-39C, day and night in standard mode.

As a bonus, my Noah runs great on this PC.

There is no doubt, we need both AMD and Intel.
As home pc - Intel is in the lead 7-2.
And best, my new one is about 1/4 of the price of the first, a Tandon 286.

By the way, nF4 runs great on the game i play, SPIDER SOLITAIRE

On 2006-04-16 17:51, scope4live wrote:
Why would you want to use a chipset which is rushed to market? Intel spends an enormous amount of money on R&D and testing. I considered AMD out of hatred for Intel back in PII days, but I only thank them for bringing the price down 300-400% since then.

Its unfortunate that as AMD has gained marketshare (and mindshare) they are no longer the clear leaders in price (price:performance is still good though). This is mostly true for the higher end systems rather than your typical gaming box though; for example a dual opteron rig (4 cores total) is quite costly these days.

The point about Intel is true also. Their cpu's go through an ungodly amount of testing, and their chipsets & motherboards get 100,000 hours of validation on average. Compare to AMD who USED to do 30-50,000 hours on a chipset and VIA & SIS who do about 15,000 hours or so. I'm not sure about Nvidia, but I suspect that its still not above 30,000 hours.

The fewer hours spent the less time they have to seek out more esoteric hardware combinations (such as DSP cards) and the more reliant they are on 'customer feedback' to fix their hardware (wait for rev2 & 3 folks!).

Exactly. I watched from the sidelines for 10 years and saw poeple get screwed beacause of the bottom line. That's why I love Creamware. They have the best product, along with the best customer support. Try getting Ta--SCAM to send you 1 return email. I might have bought something else from them, but their customer support is non-existent. So they can suck my ass. I love the small company approach,i.e. Ultimate Ears makes our custom wireless ear monitors since 1996. They return our phone calls and emails, and often come out to see us. ( But only if it's a big headliner ) Creamware just won't return your inquiries if they are stupid questions. Once I learned my way around, I recieved emails, but our forum is the main reason for me buying into CWA. I joined Halion, Kontackt,Cubase.net and KVR-VST. Thats where I learned how many people get screwed in Pro-Audio world. Just read those crying bastards over at the Kontackt forum, it is enough to make you buy hardware samplers again.
Chuck Ainley uses an awesome Dual Opteron box according to AMD, ( Sponsors Are Great ). In the high end mastering houses Opterons with Broadcom ( Serverworks ) chipsets are spriging up all over. But when you have AMD and Broadcom building your box for you, you know they didn't send it w/o extensivive testing. Imagine, Intel, and Cakewalk come to my crib, Yo' Jimmy V., play with this for a few months and let us know how you like 64bit apps. I bet that dog will hunt!!


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