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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:22 am
by voidar
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:47 am
by darkrezin
I've tried an Nforce4 boardb (the Asus one), and I can back up those findings. PCI Express is bad, at least with an Nforce4 chipset. I've heard of people not having these problems with other chipsets using PCI Express (for example, some other chipsets include AGP *and* PCI Express, as well as some normal PCI slots. It just seems to be a bad idea to use a PCI Express graphics card.
It might be okay on a high-end workstation board, with more than one PCI Bus.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:23 pm
by voidar
The way I see it is that it will be bad for about 18 months until some PCIe audio-products are released.
Creamware people seem to be stuck in the elder age though, as usual..
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:57 pm
by darkrezin
I'm not sure... the technology is at a very transitional stage right now - I don't really think CW can be blamed for this.
It's also a fact that the trend for new motherboards is going further down the consumer route, with 356893649 extra things on the motherboard eating IRQs. The Asus NForce4 SLI system I built at work had ZERO PCI slots which didn't share resources with other slots or other peripherals on the system.
At this point, workstation boards seem to be the only viable option for a serious system, or perhaps the socket 754 or socket 939 NForce3 boards.
I think it would be madness for Creamware to jump on any one technology at this point. PCI Express has so far only been used for graphics cards anyway.
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:41 pm
by voidar
Really, I am not blaming Creamware, I am blaming Intel and AMD for what seems to be crappy legacy implementation.
As you might know I am at the verge of getting a new laptop/system and these performance issues are really bothering me.
I feel like being stuck in limbo here

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I wonder if people have tried to experiment with graphics hardware accelaration setings? Would you be able to perform this test?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:28 am
by darkrezin
I tried disabling Graphics acceleration completely, which helped a little, but did not cure the problem. I also have a feeling the latest ATI graphics card drivers are very bad.
Needless to say, I gave up with that board.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:07 am
by voidar
On 2005-04-01 03:28, dArKr3zIn wrote:
I tried disabling Graphics acceleration completely, which helped a little, but did not cure the problem. I also have a feeling the latest ATI graphics card drivers are very bad.
Needless to say, I gave up with that board.
Hmm, this might help intel chipset some more then perhaps.
I take it you used the drivers from
http://www.omegadrivers.net, as they are supposedly better?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:51 pm
by analyst
ok.... i'm using now for couple of days DAW with Pulsar v1.01 and Asus a8n-sli deluxe ( with nforce4 ) and for now i dont have any problems with it....
i had only little problem when i tried to use the cracked version cubase sx 3..... but i install again my old sx 2 .... and for now i have no problems.... even not little one.
can some one tell me what problems they had ????
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:22 am
by AndreD