ableton live 4

borg · Post by **borg** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:57 pm

officially announced

i'm never gonna use cubase ever again!!!

http://www.ableton.com/index.php?main=live&sub=WhatsNew

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:06 pm

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:43 pm

This looks very, very good. A perhaps a good match with SFP... I was waiting for AcidPro5, but might switch.

Both are due in July for Summer Namm (well, I'm guesing with AcidPro, but that's where AP4 wasannounced), so it'll be interesting to compare.

Maybe they'll do another crossgrade ?

valis · Post by **valis** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:31 am

I've always loved 'playing around' in the 'live' mixer of the Live demo, and could always see using it for some of the sampling/looping duties. Its lack of midi has kept me from investing in it as I don't do live gigs and already own enough looping tools to get by.

I'm looking forward to the v4 demo download at the end of July

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:03 pm

Cubase bombs a lot for me. I might switch.

Astral Fridge Magnet · Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:13 pm

Hello all,

I love Ableton!!!!! Version 4 seems cool!!! I can't wait till it comes out!!! I still won't abandon Cubase and Logic though.

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:51 pm

I've been playing with the v3 demo a lot (as I have before). While it is very good at constructing "bits", I have a lot of trouble making little transitions between those "bits". In other words, constructing an entire song seems a lot more difficult to me than, for example, Acid...

I had arranged a very good price on this, but now I'm getting skeptical and am holding back.

Ableton certainly has a huge initial "wow factor", but I think I'll wait and see what Acid 5 has to offer.

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:08 am

I'm curious why you would find Acid (specifically) easier?

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:34 am

It's "arrange" window is a lot more functional and faster (pure opinion of course). I think it's also because everything happens in the arrange window that makes creating little bridges and fills much easier. Doing those in Ableton just seems so tedious...

Perhaps my Ableton methods are wrong ?

borg · Post by **borg** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:40 am

been testing live4 for a few days now. it certainly rocks... it's great to have the same features for midi clips than we had for audio.
there's still some things i haven't found or is not present, that would make it the one stop solution for me (like recording midi automation. you can do it of course, but could be easier), and still a few bugs. but it definitely feels great!

richard, you know you can drag all your little clips in session view to arrangement (to do this, drag your clip to the upper right corner, to the arrangement button (three horizontal lines)) and drop the clips anywhere you want (track/time), edit them there without altering the original clip in session...
i'm sure i still haven't touched 10% of its possibilities.
are you still flexorless???

the master of ramps was here yesterday... one large triangle wave playing in ableton live going via a seperate channel to modulars in sfp... all perfectly in sync. route the resulting audio back to ableton and there you have your beloved, perfectly cut, 'exported' wavs. named and everything...

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:40 am

Borg, it's spooky. You know more about me than I do !

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:19 pm

The beta version is now available to current users - anyone here testing?

borg · Post by **borg** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:20 pm

testing and loving it all the way...

quadruple drool

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:48 pm

does Live support VST instruments and fx?
From the site it seems it doesn't do instruments but it does do fx but I'm not sure.

borg · Post by **borg** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:32 am

yes your highness, the soon (end of july) to be released ableton Live4 does vst/au fx and instruments.
there is a public beta since this week. don't know if it's free to non-Live owners, though.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:57 am

(Darth Vader voice)
*Impressive....Most impressive*

valis · Post by **valis** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:15 am

Its not free to non-users but I believe there will be a public beta as well before final release.

mr swim · Post by **mr swim** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:22 am

Do you think there is much point considering Ableton Live if you're not planning on using it in a live setting ? (Is that a silly question ? Not sure)

I haven't really considered it before, but now it has midi it looks more my kinda thing ...

W

borg · Post by **borg** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:52 am

beta 4.0b9 is available for everyone. even to people not owning live.
if you've never played with ableton before, you might be overwhelmed/disappointed.
for starters, record some audio, open a 'simpler' in a midi channel, select (a part from) the recorded audio and throw it in simpler. start playing. i'm impressed with 'impulse' as well.
both very simple devices, but cool things can be done.
play on.
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:20 am

The more i see it the more i think i need this seq

Looks very very promising with the included midi !

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Been playing with al4 this morning, and man, that's what i want. They nailed down the exact workflow i was dreaming about

Midi is what was missing.

They also fixed the master out assignation, where before you could only use the first output as master, good...
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