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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:22 pm
by helldriver
do you have any hints.
which is the best and cheapest?
and is there dvd burner which will burn doublelayer dvds (9gb)?

thx

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:27 pm
by darkrezin
I've been using a Pioneer 106.. very decent results, very cheap price. I'm not sure theres many (if any) 9 gig burners right now.. I think it's always best to wait until the technology matures for this kinda stuff. 4x DVD+/-R/RW is pretty cheap and reliable now.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 6:46 pm
by helldriver
i´ve heard rumours about 8x speed dvd burners that they´re capable of burning doublelayer dvd (9gb) after a firmwareupdate.
that would be nice, because then i would go for a new plextor or a philips which are capable of burning dvd+ 8x .

is this true?

if not then a 4x burner would do the same and cheaper.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:00 pm
by braincell
It's tempting but I would hold off a while. I'm afraid there is no standard for hardware or software and the copy protection war sucks. I would love to be able to copy a DVD as I can with any audio CD but they keep changing it so you can't. For this reason I vote with my money not to buy or rent any DVD!

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:59 pm
by kensuguro
I have the Pioneer 106d. It's one of those combo DVD-R an CD-R drives. Install a hacked firmware on it and it'll become region free, and also puts burning capabilities back to its hardware maximum. (there's a software limit on it by default) Region hackable drives are extremely important to me cuz I watch DVD from US, Japan, and Taiwan.. all different DVD regions.

Get DVD Decryptor and AutoGK (both free) and you'll be rippin DVD's 'till the monkeys come home.

Hacked firmwares aren't illegal and rippin DVD's are okay as far as the DVD's yours. Just that the RPC-1(region free) part of the firmware and the de-CSS part in the ripping software is kinda illegal. ah, the copyright war. Makes it hard for you to copy even your own stuff for your own use.

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:19 am
by Spirit
I'm another one in the Pioneer 106 club - just got mine last week.

I'm not too worried about ripping DVDs, my main purpose was for easy back-up. CDs just can't hold much data - especially for music - but 4.7Gb allows a respectable amount of storage.

So I've now happily backed up hundreds of original loops - feels a lot better :smile:

Ken, you wouldn't have a direct link to the multi-region firmware would you ? :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:18 am
by kensuguro
Lucky you, I had it bookmarked just in case.
http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/pioneer_fi ... grades.htm

And I think it's okay to post the link here? If not, I'll take it off.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:31 am
by AndreD
I can recommend the LG GSA-4081B
(writes -rw, +rw and DVD RAM)

http://www.lge.de/cgi-bin/lge.cgi?func= ... 11&pid=578

(sorry, german only..)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:27 am
by Jerome
I cannot recommand the Lite-on 4x DVD burner.
Till now I haven't been able to get it to work correctly with Pulsar. Every time I insert an cd or dvd in the burner Pulsar locks up. I have to end the task and restart pulsar again. (I'm on xp). Also burning a cd or DVD results in a pulsar lock up.

I tried an new XP and pulsar install, without any DVD drivers or software but that didn't work.

My wife doesn't mind because 'll have to buy a new dvdburner and she'll got the lite-on. I'm on the other hand are not so delighted ;-(

Anyone got a lite-on DVDburner working correctly?

Jerome

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:29 am
by braincell
You might consider that the next generation of DVD burners will hold twice as much data because they are double sided.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:35 pm
by Jerome
Well my cd burner just died!!!. Not to much luck lately... So I'll buy a good plextor cdr burner and wait till the prices of the new generation of DVDburner will drop.
Burning data on cdr with high speeds doesn't take much longer then burning a whole DVD

jerome

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:51 pm
by Immanuel
http://www.cdrlabs.com is a good site for info on various optical drives.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:10 pm
by braincell
DVD burners are slow! They will improve over time I am sure. I had bad luck with the plextor so I got a TDK. My friend said they are the best and he has owned many:

TDK veloCD AI-481648

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:29 am
by samplaire
Thanks Kensuguro for the link! I use the DVR-106D in my Mac but to patch it I can easly put it in a PC :smile:

BTW I'm also the burner fan! (Quiet operation!)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:45 pm
by Jerome
On 2004-01-26 08:27, Jerome wrote:
I cannot recommand the Lite-on 4x DVD burner.
Till now I haven't been able to get it to work correctly with Pulsar. Every time I insert an cd or dvd in the burner Pulsar locks up.Anyone got a lite-on DVDburner working correctly?

Jerome
Yes I finaly got it to work correctly. The solution was quite simple actualy. In XP its possible to look at the hardware settings for your dvd burner. There I disabled the function that makes it possible for xp to drag and drop files to a empty dvd.
Since then no more pulsar lockups!

I still can't recommend this burner because it does a lousy job when burning audio cd's.
I got a lot of complaints from custommers, lot of cdplayers in theaters skip in the middle of tracks and stuff like that.

It seems that I still have to buy a plextor (or another brand) CD burner.

What is a good professional audio burner, anybody? I was thinking about the plextor premium burners.

greeting,
Jerome