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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:49 pm
by oioi
so whats your advice? wots the fattist sounding synth?? big fat saws!!....??
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:33 pm
by valis
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:50 pm
by hubird
classicly spoken, Roland JD800
(wrong edit, took it away)
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:51 pm
by wavelength
try my "supersaws" presets on my "sparC" synth, with a few notes of polyphony for the unison to take effect. six detunable saws with unison!
-Stephen
http://www.track0.com/wavelength/
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:20 pm
by kensuguro
Here's my try at it:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&3
A mod patch for modIII and mo2 that does saws. 6 detunable osc.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:45 pm
by interloper
Minimax running into the Vinco, then into the Big Multitap from EarlyFirst sounds pretty fat. That with some editing can make some really nice riffs.
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:21 pm
by oioi
i cant get anything that sounds like the soumd im after, the super saw sound on roland sounds almost as if its got white noise or somthing distorting the overall sound...SCREEMS!! .... i want that sound!!
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:15 am
by kensuguro
I posted an FM version of the above patch. Pretty close to the real thing if you ask me. Definitely worth a try.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&0
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:10 am
by Michu
Ken, out of interest
what do you think of FleXor's factory Septasaw patch?
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:38 am
by wavelength
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=17&0
<<< here is a patch i just quickly made with the sparC and a delay played directly into Wavelab. this isn't at all close enough? if you want it to bite even more you could simply apply a little EQ.
Cheers,
Stephen
http://www.track0.com/wavelength/
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:16 pm
by kensuguro
haven't had time to check out the final flexor patches yet. I'm sure I will once I get some time. Either way, I'm pretty sure that using a bunch of detunes saws isn't enough to model the roland supersaw. They've got some strange trick up their sleeves I'm sure.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:15 pm
by dehuszar
Neutron made a couple of screemers. I would also, oddly enough, recommend using the Inferno. Though it sounds cheezy just hitting notes, if you have some knobs and can keep the sound in motion (i.e. keep moving the knobs so as to keep the sound changing up, it is quite a little beast. And it already comes with SFP.
Otherwise, I'd back Stephan and say that the SparC is ripping (saving my pennies) or one of the iterations of the Plastic synth. Those wail too.
Sam
On 2003-09-24 18:21, oioi wrote:
i cant get anything that sounds like the soumd im after, the super saw sound on roland sounds almost as if its got white noise or somthing distorting the overall sound...SCREEMS!! .... i want that sound!!
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:15 pm
by oioi
there is type of 'zing' to the latest trance traks... trying to come up with it is not an easy job.
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:39 pm
by dehuszar
Any uncharted ideas (or ideas whose influences are sufficiently buried) have a zing to it. Therefore, I would think it to be dangerous to try to recreate it as you are by definition setting an expiration date on your window for success with what you are still trying to wrap your gear around.
You are always better off producing work that is heartfelt (even if violent and aggresive) and self-resonant and it will zing every time you play it for yourself and others.
The best part is that you can start today, building songs, not worrying about whether or not it has that 'zing' that you were looking for. I always prefer that not so fresh feeling over established zing.
My $.02
Sam
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:41 pm
by dehuszar
Also, one last thing... a lot of that zing comes out during the mastering process. Write the songs, play with tones once you've got something to tinker with.
Sam
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:05 pm
by oioi
im not talking about the overall sound of a track, im talking about the lead sount that the trance producers use(has zing to it or fm or some kind of distortion...) producers like Push, M.I.K.E, Corston , Armin van buran... thay all have 'that' lead sound and im at my wits ent trying to get it!! anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:54 am
by valis
email me...
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:09 am
by King of Snake
On 2003-09-25 18:05, oioi wrote:
im not talking about the overall sound of a track, im talking about the lead sount that the trance producers use(has zing to it or fm or some kind of distortion...) producers like Push, M.I.K.E, Corston , Armin van buran... thay all have 'that' lead sound and im at my wits ent trying to get it!! anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??
Jesus man that sound has been so fucking over-used I can't possibly understand why people still want it so badly. Ugh! Now go and be original and creative instead of yet another copycat.
Oh, and fuck cheesy trance!!!
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:35 am
by Spirit
Just guessing here King, but I get the feeling you think that sound's been overused ?
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:53 am
by hubird
O anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??
oioi, you could upload a sample from one of your mentioned sources (take a nonrecognisable short sample) here on planetz.
I'm sure you get great help with a reconstruction on one or another synth, or the name of the precise synth used.
Just give us a second or two
