would be cool i think
Access Virus emulator?
No need to copy the Virus - we have better IMO. Don't get me wrong, the Virus is a great synth, but I think you will find some of the synths available for the Pulsar to exceed anything else available in terms of sound quality (and unique features). Not to mention the flexibility you get from multiple types of emulations - rather than just analog synth emulation.
For the purest analog sound that can be had in the digital world, get Minimax. (IMO, the Minimax is a more authentic and richer reproduction of an analog synth than the Virus.)
For some very unique and interesting sounds, check out the Wavelength synths.
For a very powerful and flexible system, check out John Bowen's Solaris synth.
For ultra flexibility and power, check out the Modular III - and just wait until Flexor is available for it (there is nothing on the Virus that could even come close).
For authentic B3 sounds, we've got the B2003. (Again, the Virus can't compare.)
We also have a recreation of the Pro-One, which is excellent, and a unique guitar/bass emulation - Six-String (which may not sound exactly like a guitar, but you can use it to get some very interesting tones that would never be able to come from the Virus).
And - comeing soon there will be an electric piano emulation from Creamware.
These are just some highlights. I would say, even if you just got Minimax for the Pulsar system and didn't buy anything else, you would still get something that exceeds the Virus synth in terms of sound quality. I really don't see a point in making a recreation of it.
For the purest analog sound that can be had in the digital world, get Minimax. (IMO, the Minimax is a more authentic and richer reproduction of an analog synth than the Virus.)
For some very unique and interesting sounds, check out the Wavelength synths.
For a very powerful and flexible system, check out John Bowen's Solaris synth.
For ultra flexibility and power, check out the Modular III - and just wait until Flexor is available for it (there is nothing on the Virus that could even come close).
For authentic B3 sounds, we've got the B2003. (Again, the Virus can't compare.)
We also have a recreation of the Pro-One, which is excellent, and a unique guitar/bass emulation - Six-String (which may not sound exactly like a guitar, but you can use it to get some very interesting tones that would never be able to come from the Virus).
And - comeing soon there will be an electric piano emulation from Creamware.
These are just some highlights. I would say, even if you just got Minimax for the Pulsar system and didn't buy anything else, you would still get something that exceeds the Virus synth in terms of sound quality. I really don't see a point in making a recreation of it.
fully agree, huffcw all my favourites are on your list - but for sound quality and innovative approach the PythonPro can't be left out - and the Vectron for taking the classical Wavestation concept one big step beyond.
oioi, some of the above mentioned are really dsp-hungry, so don't be shocked. The original Minimoog and ProOne were monophonic, so your Luna might be unwantedly close to realism - but those single voices rule
have fun with it, tom
all my favourites are on your list - but for sound quality and innovative approach the PythonPro can't be left out - and the Vectron for taking the classical Wavestation concept one big step beyond. oioi, some of the above mentioned are really dsp-hungry, so don't be shocked. The original Minimoog and ProOne were monophonic, so your Luna might be unwantedly close to realism - but those single voices rule
have fun with it, tom
more DSP's? yea i figgerd that!! Blimy its never ending what u neet to buy in the music game! First u need this, then u need that...will it ever end or am i always gona spend small fortunes every copple of months! And in anycase, wouldent it be a hole lot cheaper to stick with 'native' VSTi's, witch i already have a bunch of?..or am i missing the point? If u already have a good pc that runs vsti's no problem, then why shellout on even more softsynths that will only run on a creamware card?? I mean, are the DSP synths that much better sounding than native?...
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And in anycase, wouldent it be a hole lot cheaper to stick with 'native' VSTi's, witch i already have a bunch of?..or am i missing the point? If u already have a good pc that runs vsti's no problem, then why shellout on even more softsynths that will only run on a creamware card?? I mean, are the DSP synths that much better sounding than native?... <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: oioi on 2003-08-27 03:56 ]</font>
The best thing is to load up some synths when you get your Luna and see if you value the vastly superior quality (try some pitch modulations and high notes, as well as deep bass sounds, to really hear the difference).
In my experience, some people still go back to the native stuff because they don't appreciate the difference, or their music does not demand it. Your Luna will always be a great routing and mixing card though.
peace
In my experience, some people still go back to the native stuff because they don't appreciate the difference, or their music does not demand it. Your Luna will always be a great routing and mixing card though.
peace
oioi, there's a very very simple test running on your Luna: the free KickMe bass drum by Adern. Try to find something like that as VSTI - the thing is deeper than the ocean, clicks just below bat sounds frequencies with lighspeed punchy envelopes 
Just take care at the proper cans or monitors
Anyway, if you find out that more dsp is the way to go - this doesn't make your Luna useless. There are widespread options how to extend it, you original investment keeps it's value.
We just wanted to prevent that '... I've paid sooo much - and now only a single voice ???' experience.
If you listen closely to comparable synth setups on Luna and VST you'll easily hear the difference.
Luna synths CAN be used without FX, native ones usually fail.
Afaik there isn't a single patch in any NI synth package without FX applied.
cheers, tom
Just take care at the proper cans or monitors
Anyway, if you find out that more dsp is the way to go - this doesn't make your Luna useless. There are widespread options how to extend it, you original investment keeps it's value.
We just wanted to prevent that '... I've paid sooo much - and now only a single voice ???' experience.
If you listen closely to comparable synth setups on Luna and VST you'll easily hear the difference.
Luna synths CAN be used without FX, native ones usually fail.
Afaik there isn't a single patch in any NI synth package without FX applied.
cheers, tom
Access has pointed out that their synth architecture isn't a direct port as it was to pro tools because it shares the dsp architecture with pro tools, but not with creamware's cards. Also its been hinted that forking development to a separate dsp architecture is unlikely. So anything that 'emulated' the virus would have to be a 'clone' and not by Access themselves.
The only feature I can think of that the virus has that I've yet to see in any of my sfp devices is the saturation curves on the filters (to make up for the lack of resonance). There may be sfp synths that have this feature, but I haven't had the experience of one yet. There are plenty of synths on our platform already that give similar results to a Virus (aside from the saturation on filter resonance) that I find quite superior to z3ta+ & VirSyn Tera--the closest software equivalents to a Virus.
Also, aside from some of the synths creamware markets most of the synths that are coming out for pulsar from 3rd parties are fairly unique and unlike other synths on the market. All of the synths mentioned in this thread are excellent (and I would add Flexor to the list) and when used together with adequate dsp for your voicings there's no reason you shouldn't be pumping out filtered & trancey leads till the cows come home...
The only feature I can think of that the virus has that I've yet to see in any of my sfp devices is the saturation curves on the filters (to make up for the lack of resonance). There may be sfp synths that have this feature, but I haven't had the experience of one yet. There are plenty of synths on our platform already that give similar results to a Virus (aside from the saturation on filter resonance) that I find quite superior to z3ta+ & VirSyn Tera--the closest software equivalents to a Virus.
Also, aside from some of the synths creamware markets most of the synths that are coming out for pulsar from 3rd parties are fairly unique and unlike other synths on the market. All of the synths mentioned in this thread are excellent (and I would add Flexor to the list) and when used together with adequate dsp for your voicings there's no reason you shouldn't be pumping out filtered & trancey leads till the cows come home...