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Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:11 am
by astroman
so where are those 'ideas' then ? I'm sure they'd be more than welcome ;)
it is so simple, that it's not even obvious anymore.

if you're a happy, crappy VSTi based producer - go for it ... the stuff is omnipresent and cheap
no need to rant about another overpriced system
even more if the person's ears have lost track to quality

Above I've cut the original section of a song from 72 right after it's iTunes excerpt
iTunes previews are exactly the quality you purchase - that is what people are used to today
it has nothing to do with analog versus digital, because my online copy is digitized, too ;)

I wonder about the arguments of such messiasses - what's this sh*t for ?
Has there ever been a single idea posted beyond the obvious 'you can do more graphics tricks...' ?
if I'm tempted to spend a 5-figure amount on an instrument then it's my business and I don't mind anyone calling me a snob

a true 'professional' will never waste a thought about the stuff cycling through such threads
if you need Scope sound or functionality - a 2nd machine in the studio rack is the way to go
it's dead cheap and will simply work, a first class box with 24 channels of Adat IO is $ 1.5k
the amount of a better entry bass (to quote the example...)

in the context of 'money earning' there is absolutely no discussion beyond this point. period
it simply doesn't matter if 64bit or an OS version are available or not or whenever...
the thing does it's job in the rack - the rest is simply nerd and geek talk
ok, that has it's fun part, too... from time to time ... :D

now comes the psychological fine-print
... ah, the company isn't up to date... bla bla... don't support this yet ... bla bla... loosers... bla
as the M$ experience tells, one can't be too confident about people's abilities to tell bs from facts
or how far a customer's patience can be stressed
so I'm not that sure if 'professional' (in the strict sense of making cash) arguments will hold here... ;)

but it's a matter of fact that boards like this a favourite target to discredit something or someone.
funny if the prosecutor (pointing his finger...) takes this role himself

cheers, Tom

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:31 am
by garyb
:)

hey, this Scope stuff is pretty cool! what an opportunity for a hater to spread his unhappiness...but, you know, i remember the old Creamware forum and the trolling that went on there. there were even other companies sending stooges in to wreck the place...

of course, here on z, it's just garden trolls...

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:32 am
by wayne
- still drooling over that Precision :)

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:52 am
by astroman
yeah, that picture flashed back into my memory when the dude wrote ... I found the hardware that makes me happy...
me too :lol:
btw that bass is almost exactly my age, end of '57... :D

cheers, Tom

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:35 am
by kylie
astroman wrote:btw that bass is almost exactly my age, end of '57... :D
so go and marry... it. 8)

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:43 am
by astroman
sorry Markus, didn't you notice that men my age rarely marry at all ?
and if... well, then 'she' is usually ... ---snip---
in that sense I'm pretty happy with a Japanese one from '89 :D

cheers, Tom

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:31 pm
by Tau
astroman wrote: in that sense I'm pretty happy with a Japanese one from '89 :D
:lol: That made me laugh!

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:15 pm
by ARCADIOS
astroman wrote:
ARCADIOS wrote:.... but sometimes i wish it was 15 years back when i used to record on a tape a part that i liked on a vynil..... and by using pause and rec..and pause ...

trilian with another hungry vst(ivory) together..........works only if we bypass the 32bit limit.
i would prefer real bass and real piano of course :)
BUT...
good things never end, I posted the auction of the 58 Fender P-Bass not so unintentionally... ;)
did you notice the neck ? the backside of the headstock - an exceptional beautiful maple :D
below is the iTunes version, followed by the original vinyl from Carly Simon's 'You're so Vain'... not you, Arcadios :lol:

it's serious slap on the ears if you hear it right one after the other. no processing applied to the vinyl at all

cheers, Tom


The vynil recording has a problem on high frequency which did not matter for me since i raised 12khz.
i did this just to make a more similar frequency balance to the itunes version.


the 2nd.. vynil version is much better. more room, more image, more fluency. the itunes version seems much more compressed.
it is compressed i guess since it is from itunes but......... the second wins..................

just to mention... i make the comparison by using 1032a genelecs :wink:






:lol: :lol: :lol: Soniccore...... take your time

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:58 pm
by dawman
PBass sounds great Tom.
You can tell the recording was done in one of those class sized studios of the day where the drums Bass and Piano were recorded all at once.
Sychronization like that only comes from eye contact and I am sure according to divisions of Cubases Piano roll the players were all 40-50 ppq's off, but it's inconsitencies are what make it such a pleasure.

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:00 pm
by astroman
ARCADIOS wrote:... The vynil recording has a problem on high frequency which did not matter for me since i raised 12khz.
i did this just to make a more similar frequency balance to the itunes version. ...
yes it also suffers (partly) from phasing on the vocals, but then it's a used record.
Not in bad condition for almost 40 years, so watch out for your CDs, folks :D
The record player isn't fully adjusted and probably has a suboptimal stylus - no more originals for the Shure V15/III
and I've had problems with 'compatible' ones already. Still a very 'listenable' audio quality.
Imho such stuff is great to get your feet back on the ground, when cruising too far with the DAW...

cheers, Tom
yes Jimmy, I clearly see a PBass on my list
you can't go without, a man isn't a man without his PBass, wait a minute...
needs 2 to know, one with rounds and one with flatwound strings, yeah, go for it, yeah... :D

I also like these old almost-live studio recordings
one famous example is Patty Smith's version of G.l.o.r.i.a
you can't fake that, almost slingering on tempo, but totally grooving - still makes my neck hair stand after all those years... :o

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:32 am
by kylie
astroman wrote:sorry Markus, didn't you notice that men my age rarely marry at all ?
no I did not. am too much of a youngster myself, so I don't care for senior's business (yet)... :D
in that sense I'm pretty happy with a Japanese one from '89 :D
it's all fine if you're happy with what you've got ;)

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:31 am
by bLiNd
I have used both xtc and scope mode, and I love both. What i am really interested in besides the 64 bit option is this rumored XTC mode with working routing window. its basically the best of both worlds, why has no one mentioned this!?

Re: its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:48 am
by ARCADIOS