Is Creamware still alive?

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:50 pm

astroman wrote:
kylie wrote:...I'm just a bit tired of that "I know things you don't know but I had to kill you if I told ya" postings, nothing else...
and who do you think is tired of the unqualified blurb by some self-elected experts ???

what is more annoying? and who is the one to decide who's the expert and who's not? is that your part?

I hope we both agree that those who are about to bury cw alive are as annoying as those who predict their resurrection, both without any proof.

sorry, had to say that.

-greetings, markus-

ps: garyb: that's why I have some hope that the speculation will not be driven any further by comments that do not contain facts (because the issuer is not allowed to release them into the public). it's ok that you know something, and I hope it's great, but it starts making people crazy about it...

Post by **garyb** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:04 am

no doubt, but i don't know very much really. just enough to know that the thread is not very helpful and that this action taken by CWA is not what some think it is.....sorry to annoy. i'm annoyed with the speculation.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:26 am

garyb wrote:no doubt, but i don't know very much really. just enough to know that the thread is not very helpful and that this action taken by CWA is not what some think it is.

that's exactly what I thought about it. it's nice to hear some words to cheer us up, definitely, and I won't blame you for that. but people start to think the musikmesse will reveal everything that was ever requested from cw with a bang, and I still refuse to believe.
I would even be satisfied with "we're back to normal".

btw , namm is over. any statement concerning cw from there?

-greetings, markus-

Post by **garyb** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:38 am

i wouldn't be looking for a new card or anything like that at the moment. synths from John or InDsp? possible. scope V5 is a real possibility as well, for sure, if most of CWA has their way. cheerful enough? pci cards are old, but there's still no comparable product. vista drivers and a few real bugfixes(maybe even mackie control), would add at least another year or two to the present system's sellablility and add a decade to scope's usefulness, so until there's sad news otherwise, one might as well be happy that CWA is aware of the situation, and that there's still a desire to sell scope...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:28 am

kylie wrote:
astroman wrote:
kylie wrote:...I'm just a bit tired of that "I know things you don't know but I had to kill you if I told ya" postings, nothing else...
and who do you think is tired of the unqualified blurb by some self-elected experts ???
what is more annoying? and who is the one to decide who's the expert and who's not? is that your part?
...

if someone gives public advices to a technology company and talks about '...what should' and 'howto...' while ignoring even the most basic economic aspects of developement, then he or she IS talking rubbish (not specifically directed at reflex - at least some of his arguments are reasonable)

and yes, after 20 years on my own in sales, support and IT developement I do consider myself an expert in this domain - but I don't consider myself error-free either

cheers, Tom

Hysteric · Post by **Hysteric** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:58 am

I turn on my pc and there it is, Creamware, Alive. That's good enough for me at the moment, good luck to Creamware and everyone here, we have a common bond and may all of our good wishes come true. Creamware Rules.

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:04 am

astroman wrote: if someone gives public advices to a technology company and talks about '...what should' and 'howto...' while ignoring even the most basic economic aspects of developement, then he or she IS talking rubbish (not specifically directed at reflex - at least some of his arguments are reasonable)

ah, come on

the company who should complain about being "teached" what to do is not yours, is it? I can understand that you read alot stuff like this that you don't agree with, but do you really feel responsible to jump into the breach everytime cw is told what to do? they have been for years, and still they do it their way. be it good or bad.

and yes, after 20 years on my own in sales, support and IT developement I do consider myself an expert in this domain - but I don't consider myself error-free either

since no one is error-free (me, of course, included

) this comes not totally unexpected.

well, I feel, all we can do now is just wait, as we are used to...

I respect your thoughts about the situation, as I respect other peoples thoughts, but I am not a big fan (as you might guess) of experts...

-greetings, markus-

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:50 am

kylie wrote:...ah, come on the company who should complain about being "teached" what to do is not yours, is it? I can understand that you read alot stuff like this that you don't agree with, but do you really feel responsible to jump into the breach everytime cw is told what to do?...

it isn't the one of the "teachers" either, so applying your 'suggestion' equally it simply means 'shutup, because it's not your business...', so we seem to be perfectly in line

anyone with sympathy for CWA would like to avoid threads like this, as they don't lead to any results (how could they ?), but are (of course) hit by google requests and can get out of control more quickly than appreciated.

cheers, Tom

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:00 am

fairlight buys creamware...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:22 am

Creamware Scope is light years ahead. Why do think there's so much barking at their heels?

Post by **hubird** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:28 am

edit: you had a nice line Shroomz, in the split second I made the minimal post of

you changed it...

katano · Post by **katano** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:28 am

who knows the pyramix system from Merging Technologies??

Have a look:
http://www.merging.com
and
http://www.merging.com/2002/html/pyrafe ... 1_full.htm
or
http://www.merging.com/download/Mykerin ... Manual.pdf

even they've a pci-e card now

cheers
Roman

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:35 am

It was quite funny Huub, but just too sarcastic to be warrented

djsainz · Post by **djsainz** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:55 am

Out of curiosity with Creamware company....

What are the people or 1 person doing during working hours?

As far as the website has to offer their only real job at the moment seems in helping with giving people the allkeys file due to the mypage being down, as for technical support problems Planet Z has a much faster response time.

As far as for future things to come they are being very secretive if not ambiguos. As probably many of us have tried emailing them asking about Vista drivers development, they replied to me with trying to start a vista support, but they dont know when. But in the computer industry we surely know in some cases this can become vapourware, specially when there isnt a timeframe given.

Anna Lüse · Post by **Anna Lüse** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:15 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSqZC7G3_9I

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:19 am

astroman wrote: it isn't the one of the "teachers" either, so applying your 'suggestion' equally it simply means 'shutup, because it's not your business...', so we seem to be perfectly in line

I try to avoid statements like that, but, hm, maybe every now and then there is the time to do so...

so if PZ could agree to let all speculations aside and let cw come back into business, it would be a very satisfying end to this thread.

-greetings, markus-

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:34 am

djsainz wrote:... they replied to me with trying to start a vista support, but they dont know when. But in the computer industry we surely know in some cases this can become vapourware, specially when there isnt a timeframe given.

And as long time CWA users, some of us know, that this could just as well be a sign, that they have learned from the past. Software deadlines are more or less meant not to be mett. It happens quite often anyway - even with some og the richest companies in the world. But when it happens to CWA, there always showed up a line of new planetz members trolling around and making all sorts of paranoid/conspiracy statements. This easily makes a shit load of bad reputation for a company. Microsoft can afford it big time. It is likely a bit harder for smaller companies.

Not giving out dead-lines simply equals not giving out food for the people, who always are ready to make a profile, when something looks the least bit strange ... and make very persistent claims, that doom is near. We have heard that shit loads of times now. So far it hasn't happened. I would say, that there is a pretty low "hit reccord" (in terms of profetizing the truth) for the people who likes to spread bad words about CWA.

soul-synthesis · Post by **soul-synthesis** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:35 pm

lets all get on with it....

endre70 · Post by **endre70** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:26 am

Trying to......

Anna Lüse · Post by **Anna Lüse** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:00 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Keeler