Upgrade Scope Project to "latest software status"

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:14 pm

I know naathing

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:37 pm

Hey Mr A. I know you're tired (me too), but if you add up all the posts regarding Scope 4.5 it would probably tally around 1000.....
.... that's a LOT of posts to bundle in a couple of threads !! ... Are you looking for threads which are 300 posts long ... Shit, I hope not.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:11 pm

if you add up all the posts regarding Scope 4.5 it would probably tally around 1000.....

Yeah, but at least 500 of those posts are probably complaining about how many different threads there are(!)

[ This Message was edited by: Mr Arkadin on 2005-12-05 19:12 ]

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:12 pm

Post by **hubird** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:36 pm

Sir Arkadin has damn right, some discipline in forum behavior would be a nice thing.
So much nonsens all over the place, same discussions in every thread, that's what you get.
And then the excessive quoting which doesn't make reading a pleasure...
People are too lousy to argument on spot, they just quote a whole post and then start whining their private frustration in general.

If I was John, and had time to keep an instant eye on it, I would force people to stay in one or two threads, to avoid private attention drawing!
My blessing.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:59 am

I agree about excessive quoting, but for goodness sake, how can you possibly stsrt dictating to people whether they can start a new thread or not? ... It's a forum

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:40 am

I don't think that falls under dictatorship, more like etiquette, something commonly enforced on many forums.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:03 am

On 2005-12-06 01:59, Shroomz wrote:
I agree about excessive quoting, but for goodness sake, how can you possibly stsrt dictating to people whether they can start a new thread or not? ... It's a forum

John runs this forum so he can do whatever the hell he pleases

It's not a democracy you know...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:23 am

On 2005-12-06 01:59, Shroomz wrote:
...how can you possibly stsrt dictating to people whether they can ... It's a forum

yo - how could you even think of that

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:05 am

'democracy' doesn't work anyway - as this storm in a teacup (shamelessly) reveals...

as mentioned we've observed the exact same situation a couple of times with totally predictable results.

cheers, Tom

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:58 am

On 2005-12-06 11:05, astroman wrote:
'democracy' doesn't work anyway - as this storm in a teacup (shamelessly) reveals...
as mentioned we've observed the exact same situation a couple of times with totally predictable results.

cheers, Tom

Anything that has borders and limits doesn't work for everybody but Democracy deals with the fluctuations of Human behaviour better than any other system.

What would you suggest to replace it?

diableta · Post by **diableta** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:42 am

I got "scammed" too as i was expecting to get the whole M'nM package ...i think a post from some Creamware representant would be nice....

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:14 pm

Democracy by definition is people making decisions directly by majority vote. Representative, constitutional government is the system we have in the U.S.

Taking that idea to PlanetZ, if John posted a Here's-what's-acceptable-behavior list, that could be considered a forum Constitution.

Shayne

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:35 pm

tnx Shayne for helping me out with a 'political correct' answer for that question

On 2005-12-07 05:58, Music Manic wrote:
On 2005-12-06 11:05, astroman wrote:
'democracy' doesn't work anyway ...
...
What would you suggest to replace it?

I could bail out now with 'it doeasn't work because it can't be organized', but originally I'd rather blame it on a lack of responsibility and qualification, dominated by pure selfishness.

At least that's my humble understanding of the 'reality aspect' of the democracy (as it's called) where I live in.

I don't have the impression it applies to planetZ, as people try to avoid this unpleasant way of communication (aka political debates) as much as possible.

But sometimes even here wild ideas spread like illness which is (almost) funny to observe

I wouldn't say NO to a free MM pack either for my 2nd Pulsar One, but I never got the impression I'd be entitled for the complete pack.
The (erroneous) Modular 3 offer wasn't suspective, tho - as Mod2 had been added to the base software already.

cheers, Tom

diableta · Post by **diableta** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:54 pm

The point is when i give my money i have CLEARLY know what am getting and this is not happening on the CW site so many people are screwing on this and thats not fair.. is this 98€ becoming like a plug-ins lottery?..will i get all or not..huh? why creamware didnt plublished A CLEAR list of what customers are getting(expecially who dont hown the MnM or SnS pack)..i thing this is playing with expectantions also a not fair marketing strategy, playing with the haste of a happy guy who think "god only 98 eur am gettin it"...cash!! then when u get dissapointed they correct but hey..the cash is done honey. I see thats a typical well architected commercial strategy...good job

((

Herr Voigt · Post by **Herr Voigt** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:10 pm

Antar posted a long and clear list, which customer gets which plugin. Try a search.
Well, as a proud owner of a Scope pro I got:

- poison
- pro12
- b2003
- interpole
- vdat

All for 98 EUR!
I would call it a real bargain. So simple, so good.

PS: What a day! I got my new allkeys.skf and I had the first time an 18 years old Glenfiddich Whisky.

[ This Message was edited by: Herr Voigt on 2005-12-08 14:28 ]

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:15 pm

I paid close to 500 Euro for that content

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:21 pm

On 2005-12-08 13:54, diableta wrote:
The point is when i give my money i have CLEARLY know what am getting ...
... I see thats a typical well architected commercial strategy...good job ((

You're kidding, aren't you ?
is the Salvation Army selling audio gear now ?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:31 pm

You said it Tom

diableta · Post by **diableta** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:51 pm

O my god guys..i know the masterverb itself cost 198 eur (BTW i just found but only thanks to a post on HERE what i got with the sale.)..but the point i was underlining is that creamware is not clear on this sale so, if they was, i surely didnt bought the offer just coz i have enough reverbs and i dont need synths, for my pocket is a steal,.. and am not the only one thinkin this, but ok, if all of you find 98 eur on the ground everyday lucky you...