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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:09 pm
by spoimala
garyb is talking. Yeah. Agree.
About Pci Express, it will be totally different from current PCI. Current is parallel communication, the new is serial. So it will work with a small fraction of the pins available today.
You see a trend here? Compare ATA and Serial ATA....
(funny, first serial communication was considered slow.. and someone invented parallel yippee. Traditional parallel port in PC is many times faster than RS-232 serial port.)
But indeed, with serial technology we can make faster links...
The nerd in me has talked.
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:47 pm
by Grok
So, the PCI port is near to death.
If you want the best possible PC for your Creamware's cards, with PCI slots, buy it NOW...2004 is the beginning of the PCI-Express, in the PC's world. You have surely some months (perhaps a year or two?)before the PCI port will be definitely a thing of the past in the PC's industry.
A new Firewire product could be a good choice for Creamware, with a possible use with Macs, PCs, old and news. Seems logical (for several reasons), so maybe it will happens. Only CW knows...
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:04 am
by valis
The death knoll of pci isn't coming so quickly, PCI Express will initially only be to replace the agp slot, and even in 2005 when motherboards start having more than 1 slot there will still be legacy PCI support (at least this is true for Pc's).
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:00 pm
by mythalethe
wow, I've been saving for a super cool, super quiet G5 to transition into for my DAW. But it never occured to me that my SFP cards wouldn't work...
So sad, because my roomate has Panther, and it's BEAUTIFUL! Guess I'm stuck with windows for awhile. Maybe SFP should port to LINUX, shouldn't be much of a step from OSX which is based on BSD UNIX...
-myth
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:37 pm
by hubird
just wait at least untill next june or so, and go for the G5 /3 gig single processor .
It will take a while befor CW will have tackled the OS-X change and the hardware PCI problem.
In the meantime you can check out OS-X, how it works, what's different from OS9.2, how the system deals with audio and midi, etc.
Next year OS-X is near perfection, the power of the new G5 is killing, and the first bug chase in SFP/OS-X is done (I hope).
Then I will be ready for it, ha it will be a super step in my studio, the three of them are a gold combination, I can asure you that
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:43 pm
by mythalethe
so the G5 single processor version has the proper PCI voltages to work with pulsar?
-myth
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:52 pm
by hubird
no, CW has to find a solution and told the world already they take the problem very seriously.
Do a search, it's extensively discussed here
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:39 am
by Shayne White
From the latest reports it looks like there are going to be two flavors of PCI-Express: 16x and 1x. 16x is the graphics card slot, and 1x is the "normal" slot that new CWA cards may hopefully one day fit inside.
Shayne
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:23 am
by valis
There are also 4x and 8x. However I think the numbers here determines the actual WIDTH of the slot. 1x being the least 'wide' and 16x being the 'widest'.
This page has a few images to help clarify:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm? ... 087&page=5
Hopefully someday CW cards will support PCI-Express, as I doubt that PCI-X will ever come into widespread use. PCI-X 1.0 & 2.0 require a controller for each individual slot, which does allow better management of resources but drives the cost of the motherboard up considerably, something that most PC manufacturers will avoid.