Beta test for ArtWonk/MusicWonk v3.0

johndunn · Post by **johndunn** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:16 pm

7XL wrote:
johndunn wrote:
7XL wrote:Are you saying that Musicwonk has all the features of Softstep included?
No, they are different programs, different approaches. MusicWonk does not have the graphics other than widget controls, ArtWonk has far more extensive graphics. There is a comparison chart on the web site, along with online full manuals.
Ok, does Artwonk have the capabilities to be "dumbed down" to look and function like Softstep? I don't care about fractal and algorithmic sequencing. I don't care about playing pictures and graphs. I would be looking for something that would work like a high end version of an old skool hardware sequencer.

And once again, did you update the program graphics? I'm not one to download and install software just to uninstall it. the Win98 graphics are a bit of a put off, especially for a program that uses graphics to create sound.

Not sure what you mean about the graphics. Most Windows software, including mine, take their style from the operating system, which actually builds the dialogs and pop ups and so on. So if you are in win98 the popups will have wib98 style, if you are in Vista, they will look like Vista. As for other graphics, they are what they are.

As for wanting something that works like a hardware sequencer, you probably should go with BankStep, which is exactly that. Best of all it's free.

To anticipate other questions you have along this line, I gotta say, it's really time to RTFM.

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:35 pm

I will Read The Furnished Materials

And you have just lost a potential customer.

johndunn · Post by **johndunn** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:17 pm

Post by **irrelevance** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:10 am

7XL wrote:I will Read The Furnished Materials

And you have just lost a potential customer.

RTFM is just a bit of internerd slang and shouldn't be taken as an insult really.

I'm definitely interested in fractal music so will be having a look. BTW Johndunn I thought SC replied to John Copper that any if you required info on preset handling that you should just get in touch.

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:20 am

irrelevance wrote:
7XL wrote:I will Read The Furnished Materials

And you have just lost a potential customer.

RTFM is just a bit of internerd slang and shouldn't be taken as an insult really.

I'm definitely interested in fractal music so will be having a look. BTW Johndunn I thought SC replied to John Copper that any if you required info on preset handling that you should just get in touch.

RTFM has been around longer than the internet. It is considered to be an (attempted) insult on ones intelligence.

Read The Fucking Manual.

That's how you reply to someone that was i nterested in purchasing one of your products when they have questions? I can find many other ways to spend my money.

Next time that you make a purchase, ask the sales associate for help and info on something before hand. I am pretty sure that if his reply to inquiries about whatever you are looking at is "RTFM", I'm sure you will take your business elsewhere.

johndunn · Post by **johndunn** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:04 am

irrelevance wrote:
7XL wrote:I will Read The Furnished Materials

And you have just lost a potential customer.

RTFM is just a bit of internerd slang and shouldn't be taken as an insult really.

I'm definitely interested in fractal music so will be having a look. BTW Johndunn I thought SC replied to John Copper that any if you required info on preset handling that you should just get in touch.

I did email to SC introducing myself and asking for information on how to extract synth patch names in order to support Scope with my algorithmic music software. I sent one email about when this thread was started, and I sent another after John Cooper posted the invitation to write directly to them. No answer to either email.

As for RTFM, since Kyra took over our tech support and now passes me only the more sophisticated questions, I don't get to say that nearly enough anymore.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:51 am

Its actually Read The Fine Manual.
It doesnt take much for a BOFH to change Fine with f*cking........

Opening up SDK means the key protection can probably be hacked. But this is only a guess of mine.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:00 am

johndunn,

I don't think you will ever get an answer back from SC.

I'm going to try the demo. Keep up the great work. It's very rare to see original ideas such as this. Music and art needs to be more integrated with software. I once saw a midi sequencer for video clips but I am not sure if one is available. That is something I would be interested in.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:36 am

RTFM is not an insult - it's a simple statement of fact in this age of incredible laziness.

Chances are if you're asking questions now that are in the manual, you'll probably keep asking questions after buying it, again without looking at the manual. So basically using tech support as an interactive manual search+summarize tool.

Maybe John simply doesn't want this type of customer? I imagine they can be a real drain on support resources. I think he already said in another post that he's not doing this for the money, so I don't see the problem. He probably wants customers who NEED the software and are willing to put in a little effort to understand it because they need its functions badly enough. While he may not get as many customers as a company that will bend over repeatedly for the customer, the support/income ratio might be more manageable.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:10 pm

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:51 am

off topic, Tom