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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:54 pm
by emphazer
[quote="garyb"]use the E6850.


why?
do you have really more perfomance with a cpu that supports 1333MHz FSB`
then with one that has twice as much cores and L2 cache but only 1066MHz FSB?

or is just the volt the problem?
dont you think it would be better to get another on instead?

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:29 pm
by pollux
emphazer wrote:
garyb wrote:use the E6850.


why?
do you have really more perfomance with a cpu that supports 1333MHz FSB`
then with one that has twice as much cores and L2 cache but only 1066MHz FSB?

or is just the volt the problem?
dont you think it would be better to get another on instead?
You can use then a QX9650.. 4 cores and 1333 MHz FSB.. or a QX9770 with a 1600 MHz FSB...

and if that's not enough, they're highly overclockeable ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:33 pm
by garyb
because the E6850 outperforms the quad when using the music apps we use.

the 1.8volt requirement is for the ram on an intel motherboard.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:57 pm
by firubbi
1,8volt... omg... i'd alreday place the order..
thanks

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:59 pm
by garyb
:)

on Siriusbliss' computer i used kingston valueram. it works perfectly. scope4live used some really nice stuff. he could give the details.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:45 pm
by dawman
Ankyuvarymush.

One can tweak the latency ( CL5 to CL4 etc. ) as well as the voltage ( 1.8v to 1.9v, or 1.9v to 1.8v ) in Intel's BIOS. This is a new approach for Intel as they attempt to win over the enthusiast crowd.

The E6850 is the best bang for a buck right now. Our apps can't take advantage of the fast QX's until this summer probably, even though everyone says NAMM '08. I tend to not trust what Sonar / Cubase developers say anymore. The best performance increase until those apps are bug free would be the 3 GB Switch......................http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/pl ... fault.mspx...........................

Memory addressing appears to be the bottleneck, not the CPU's IPS, or additional threads. The QX series will have more cache, and the 1333 / 1600 FSB will beat the E6850's hands down w/ application optimisations only. So for now the cheap E6850 w/ the PAE 3GB switch will be the best way to go IMHO.

Just having a P35 / G33 mobo is a smart move. I always try to talk myself into a differnet over-researched approach to my designs, but GaryB has done my last 5 designs, and as usual saved me money and proved that conservatism is PC correct. Personal Computer wise, and Politically Correct as well. :lol:

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:05 pm
by kylie
garyb wrote::)

on Siriusbliss' computer i used kingston valueram. it works perfectly.
although I expected that it's nice to hear from you it does. they have a nice manufacturer/device compatibility tool, so it's easy to determine whether it's worth thinking about it or not :)
now I still have to assemble everything...

-greetings, markus-

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:44 pm
by garyb
:)

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:19 am
by firubbi
already bought:
750watt Thermaltake powersupply.
intel mobo dp35dp
intel prosessor E6850

does this chassis can hold scope pro?
Dimension w/Bezel (W x H x D) 270 x 521 x 630 mm

http://www.firingsquad.com/products/rev ... /8151/2646
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RAM: strange is after using memory configurator i got this result. all i need 800mhz but which one is 1.8volt!!


TWIN2X4096-6400C5 DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (2 x 2GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
QUAD2X4096-8500C5 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 4GB Kit (4 x 1GB) 5-5-5-15-2T

TWIN2X2048-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO DDR2-800 C4 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X2048-6400C5DHX DDR2-800 (DHX) 2GB Kit (2 x 1GB) 5-5-5-18-2T
T
CM2X1024-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 1GB 5-5-5-15-2T
4-4-4-12-2T
TWIN2X1024-6400C4 DDR2-800 C4 1GB Kit (2 x 512MB) 4-4-4-12-2T

CM2X512A-6400 DDR2-800 (XM2S-6400) 512MB 5-5-5-15-2T


i didn't find recomanded memory at intel site :( garyb do you know where i can find that?
thanks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:03 am
by garyb
ask scope4live what he used, or use the Kingston.
you won't be able to use the Corsair.

nice case, but it'll never accept a full length card. most cool gaming cases won't. there aren't many full length cards that gamers use...

it's a bit of a hassle finding cases that do fit full length pci cards, a NOS Chieftec of Antec TX series would be perfect, but probably hard to find. for some reason, they aren't making many cases with room for a full size card these days, i guess there aren't a lot of big cards out there...

btw- that motherboard has no ps2 connectors. you will need to use USB for the keyboard/mouse.....

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:10 am
by firubbi
usb kbd! hope it will not make any problem.

i'll ask jimmy...

thanks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:18 am
by garyb
no, the use of USB for the kbd will not be a problem with that mobo....

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:10 am
by clanctot
These parts have the 1.8 volt requirements for the dp35dp

OCZ 800MHZ DDR2 NO-ECC 2048MB ELITE KIT

OCZ2SE8002GK


Christian.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:30 pm
by firubbi
i didn't saw intel mobo at OCZ site. hope this works...

OCZ System Elite XTC Edition 240-pin DIMM DDR2 PC2-6400, 800MHz 2GB (2x 1GB) SDRAM unbuffered dual channel system memory kit; fully JEDEC compliant; Cas 5; CL 5-5-5-15 timings; 1.8 volts; XTC (Xtreme Thermal Convection) Edition copper-mirrOred heatspreader included. 2.0V EVP (E)xtended (V)oltage (P)rotection. 100% hand tested. Lifetime warranty.

** what is the dimension of scope pro?

thanks

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:12 am
by clanctot
Gary will certainely come by and confirm this or not.

Christian

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:22 am
by garyb
i haven't been by the intel site to verify the timings requirements, but that looks good to me from here.....