Cochise wrote:features are reported 2 conventional PCI slot only, ( + 1 PCI E x 16 + 3 PCI E x 1, for a total of 6 slots).
But I can see 7 slots in the image, and 3 of those are conventional PCI.
in the product manual you'll find the correct number. it's three. and the board layout shows them all, too.
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also the picture shows three. and if you enlarge it, you can read the imprint on the box, which says DP35P, so it would have been a big glitch if intel mixed the wrong board with the right box
I had to reread the specs, though, since the second pci and the second pci-e-x1 seemed pretty close on that picture. this could have meant this "error" on the main page would be intentional since you might not be able to use both at the same time. but the layout in the manual shows them properly spaced, so the photographic angle is somewhat confusing...
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I just found one the differences between the E6X00 and the E6X50 Intel processor series. And it's anyway remarkable for me, considering the operating environment.
My first DAW was build onto a Gigabyte BX, it was a very reliable board and gave me lots of joy. I didn’t notice that the GA-P35-DS3R, had no firewire, I need one, and unfortunately, I have gone through some reviews where BIOS problems are detected. It is said that Gigabyte have great layout, high quality materials, but when it comes to their BIOS they are short.
The price difference between the Asus P5KC and the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R is exactly 20 US dollars. The P5KC comes with two firewire connections. Here is the complete list of components, it seems to me a great board, but nobody seems to have used it here:
The only thing I’m missing is the old mouse connection, but well… this is not a great problem I guess. Is there a cable conversion for it to usb or something?
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well, compared to the intel boards, the asus seems to me bloated somehow for the average scope user.
both ddr2 and ddr3, esata, 8 channel onboard audio with spdif optical and coax, lotsa overclocking features, double pci-e x16 with crossfire support, 12 usb ports... what a waste... lots of things you probably never use or even disable, but you pay for them, of course.
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Clearly the ram problem encountered for those of us looking to install more than 3GB of DDR2 ram, is not motherboard related, but OS related. All systems with 32 bit are restricted to use up to 3.2 GB or ram, while 64 bit OS supports whatever number of GBs your motherboard has to offer.
But what would it happened if you upgrade to XP PRO 64bits? Will we get problems with programs and drivers? We will have problems with pulsar because the drivers we have do not work with XP 64bit version? Cos that could be the solution… an unpgrade.
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you don't need 64bit! you will have lots of driver issues, especially with scope. i also doubt VERY much if you have any app which can really make use of the extra ram.
i'd get the intel board. if you want, send me the money and i'll buy it and ship it to you. since the intel board is considerably cheaper, the total price will likely be the same after shipping as the asus.
I have been investigating the P5KC in the Asus forums, and there are quite a few inconsistencies that make me seriously think of getting back… I am rather living the P5KC behind..., I don’t want to pass my life tuning a board for it to be perfectly compatible! No way… I want to install and start working, period.
Well, I have started editing video with pretty sophisticated programs like After Effects 7, and it can be pretty heavy on the machine. The fact I want so much ram is because I have the hope of not having to wait for the machine to render my experiments for so long, and so keep working as soon as possible.
I have 21 hours to edit now, I have to do a superb job with it, adding tracks, mixed footage, voices, atmospheres that suggests something behind the real audio to give to it the flavour the client wants, and apply quite a few effects and animations. One of the heaviest things is to colour key many footage pieces to form a big composite, and there the problem starts. The ram preview becomes extreme slow, and there is no way for you to make up a clear idea of how it would look like, so there I have to get into rendering to “real” avi format, and see the outcome of what I’m doing. Perhaps with lots of ram, I will not need to make actual render, but only ram render of the job in course. This is my hope. Of course, in this kind of jobs, particularly when you are paid not too much, time is an important issue. The faster you do the job, in a sense, the more you earn. So with a slow machine, you earn much less. That’s the bottom line.
Gary, what a good will you have man… nobody asked you anything, and you offer yourself to help. This is way cool, and I thank you VERY MUCH for this, despite the fact you do or not it. Thank you!
I will ask shops around, if they can “bring it to Chile” for me, and will calculate how much they will take, if they do it… If nobody gets my word here, I will ask you to send it to me.
Cheers
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1.8 V (only) DDR2 SDRAM DIMMs with gold-plated contacts
How would a 2.1V memory stick work properly under 1.8V? Wouldn’t it make the stick run at a slower speed or let say just below its natural threshold of performance?
And it also states:
DDR2 800 SIMMs with SPD timings of only 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 (tCL-tRCD-tRP)
That will force me to choose a low performance ram model, or am I wrong? Even this one, which is not one of the fastest:
CORSAIR XMS2 TWIN2X2048-5400c4 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 2GB Cas Latency 4 Timings 4-4-4-12 Voltage 1.9V…
Will have a specification that goes beyond the board: Timings 4-4-4-12 and Voltage of 1.9V
Nestor wrote:But Kylie, it is not an expensive solution if you look around; in fact the P5KC, it is one of the cheapest high quality boards out there.
it's about 35 EUR more than my intel DP965LT (134,- vs. 99,-), and still 25 more than the DP35DPM.
I was a big fan of asus many years (I started with a PVI/AP4 in 1994, had a TP4N and the famous T2P4, went over to the P2B and upgraded it to the P3B-F, until I finally ended up with the P4C800-E DLX. all of them do still work, btw (ok, I didn't have the AP4 running for about 2 years now, but I'm sure it will boot up as usual). ).
but they recently added much stuff I don't need (anymore), and so it was gary who kinda conviced me to spend some bucks less on a stable and solid solution (I paid about double the price for the last asus, and this was my first board ever to be factory repaired, which took 2 months).
12 USB ports can be a good thing in the sense that if you disable them, you get plenty of free IRQs to play with.
not having them leaves IRQs free either...
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ps. I just realized this was my 500th post. I can call myself Pulsar Disciple now (yes, john, I have a backup of your ranking )
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Nestor, if the ram issue is an issue for you, get the board that makes sense to you. i don't think that you'll see any significant difference in performance with either ram, but i can understand wanting to have the fastest available. if you're talking about 12 hours of rendering reduced to 11 hours and 55 minutes, i'm not sure if i would substitute stability for speed. still, i'll bet the asus board will be plenty stable. use what you like.
Nestor wrote:...I have 21 hours to edit now, I have to do a superb job with it, adding tracks, mixed footage, voices, atmospheres that suggests something behind the real audio to give to it the flavour the client wants, and apply quite a few effects and animations. One of the heaviest things is to colour key many footage pieces to form a big composite, and there the problem starts. The ram preview becomes extreme slow, and there is no way for you to make up a clear idea of how it would look like, so there I have to get into rendering to “real” avi format, and see the outcome of what I’m doing. Perhaps with lots of ram, I will not need to make actual render, but only ram render of the job in course. This is my hope. ...
ok, not on the topic, but as a sidenote
imho it is very unlikely that the difference between the 2 render modes is based on the amount of memory.
'Final' renderings often include exponentially more data and as such a similiar increase of processing time.
The quality of the render program itself and if it (possibly) has hardware support (by specialized video cards) is the main factor for performance.
I've recently stumbled over a consumer grade video editing tool (Powerdirector or so), which I totally liked for it's stupid approach to cludge things together.
You could work out a rough version of an idea in almost no time, but someone told me it would take hours to render the final video.
It's not a very good example in this context, as it's about the mpeg encoding process which isn't related to editing anyway - but other applications can do that much faster.
so they do exist! Thank you for pointing me this out. A simple solution... ::)
