Page 8 of 21
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:04 pm
				by erminardi
				I have only noticed the serious lack of a module to make the coffee...  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:24 pm
				by ReD_MuZe
				theoreticaly, if you have a speeker loud enough you can use an oscillator to create friction in the water to boil them (kind of like microwave). 
and theoreticaly with a weight and a strong speeker driver connected to it you can grind the coffee.
and theoreticaly with a robotic hand and an envelope you can automate the rest of the proccess. 
its modular you can make anything!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:03 pm
				by wolf
				you can even turn the time back with it .. not just theoretically .. really ..
.. really.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:13 pm
				by hubird
				I don't see presets...

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:23 pm
				by hifiboom
				ReD_MuZe wrote:wavedraw in flexor1 

 
if the wavedraw is basically the same...
maybe it would be possible to get a wavedraw with "movement points" and a preset list.... or with such faders ?
  
if a single dot falls away with the wavedraw pencil you already have a bit crush fx...
I know the assist but personally I find it a bit complicated to use.
maybe I`m too stupid. 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:38 pm
				by decimator
				Wavedraw and Vaz Waveshaper are quite different in sound so I thought Wavedraw was optimised more ( ramp )  for wavedrawing  than waveshaping  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:02 pm
				by ReD_MuZe
				ah you want it interpolated
well
well see what i can do 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:11 pm
				by hifiboom
				decimator wrote:Wavedraw and Vaz Waveshaper are quite different in sound so I thought Wavedraw was optimised more ( ramp )  for wavedrawing  than waveshaping  

 
decimator. there is a big difference in sound... even when wavedraw is set to  the linear "unaffecting" setting, it does crush the sound a bit...
while the VAZ thing does not.
I`m sure it has to do with the 64 point resolution of wavedraw....
1 point always represents an amplitude input range . for example 1 to 512 
now the question is how does wavedraw1 handles  the different input values in one range and what output values come out for the different inputs...
 
does every input value from a range(f.e 1 to 512) get always the same output value y? I mean all values from one 
range1(1..512) get the same new value (f.e 713) 
and f.e. range 2(513..1024) get  912 and so on....
So the new waveform consists of only 64 values and it always sounds like a bit crusher... 
in fact  "that" vaz shaper - that we desire - seem to have lesser amount of points (resolution) like 16 sliders but it seems to interpolate the values from input ranges to the new values...
f.e. range1(1..512)
256 gets the full value 713
values lower 256 get calculated lower output values.... 
1 gets 1/256*713
2 gets 2/256*713 
and so on....
values above 256 get interpolated between the 713 and the next points max/min value(in this example 912) and so on....
so the output values are smoothed out.
that means although it has lesser amount of points/sliders it will output the full amplitude spectrum from f.e. 16bit.
A bit hard for me to explain for me in english....
 
 
But I think thats basically the difference...
and yes its very audible...
hope somebody understands what I mean....  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:14 pm
				by hifiboom
				ReD_MuZe wrote:ah you want it interpolated
well
well see what i can do 

 
lol, I need half an hour to write down what I want to say in english, and then I see, RED already got the point.
 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:23 pm
				by wolf
				you see ?
backwards into the future. all with modular.
 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:23 pm
				by decimator
				Thanks ReD !  
 
And hifiboom for all the text   
 
Well in the end I hope scopers will enjoy all the radical or subtle/ fast / tasty waves modifications of the VaZ  Waveshaper !  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:37 pm
				by hifiboom
				decimator wrote:Thanks ReD !  
 
And hifiboom for all the text   
 
Well in the end I hope scopers will enjoy all the radical or subtle/ fast / tasty waves modifications of the VaZ  Waveshaper !  

 
I hope, too  
 
as this is really powerful!
with the interpolated shaper, you really can shape everything everywhere you could expect.
The only waveform that is more or less unaffected is the SQUARE.  
 
there could be a small (2 and 4 sliders to save DSP) and big one for more shaping posssibilies. (16 sliders) 
and maybe versions with mod ins for realtime modification of the sliders...

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:50 pm
				by hubird
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:09 pm
				by hifiboom
				wolf wrote:you see ?
backwards into the future. all with modular.
 

 
jeah wolf
I know its the flux capacitor module
one of the secrets RED is holding back.  
 
"disconnect capacitor drive before opening" 
caution "shield eyes from light"
 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:22 am
				by phatbob
				hifiboom wrote:I want to meat the man
if you read carefully thats really funny....
 
Isn't it.....
BTW, you understood my thought.
I can't wait to buy Flex II
E.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:08 am
				by faxinadu
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:55 am
				by valis
				steffensen wrote:Is there ny update on the already nice GFX aswell?
Yes we have updated the graphics somewhat so that the Flexor v2.x modules should have a distinctive look.  It references the previous look but it somewhat 'harder'.  I will try to post up some examples in a bit, I meant to do it after his lovely list was posted but I had a gig last night.
 Actually strav I saw the pdf manual that was (thoughtfully) provided last time based on the html I built, it made me feel bad that you beat me to the job!  Last time the manual involved other people before it reached me, so keeping up with the version changes was a chore.  This time even if one shows up before the other you can be assured of both. I'm going to make sure that all changes are done to the core help document before propagating out to the published formats (PDF & html).
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:52 pm
				by ReD_MuZe
				did i say 135?!
i meant 140 
and yes i am keeping some stuff back
 
 
be patient, it should be out a bit after messe.
now i need to start writing the manual ^$!#@$#?^@ !!! 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:26 pm
				by hifiboom
				ReD_MuZe wrote:
be patient, it should be out a bit after messe.
sounds good!
I hope it doen`t need another month to get into CW shop.....
Or will it be available through adern homepage....?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:46 pm
				by Shroomz~>
				Awesome!!! 
ReD_MuZe wrote:Delays 
All Pass  
All-Pass F 
All-Pass S 
All-Pass SF 
Delay 
Delay F 
Delay S 
Delay SF 
Tempo All-Pass 
Tempo All-Pass F 
Tempo All-Pass S 
Tempo All-Pass SF 
Tempo Delay 
Tempo Delay F 
Tempo Delay S 
Tempo Delay SF 
Tempo Delay SF 
Filters 
AP-2_Resonator 
AP-3 Formant 
AP-3 Vowel A 
AP-3 Vowel B 
AP-6 Phaser 
AP-8 Additive 
BP-2 Granite 
BP-4 Granite 
BP-8 Granite 
BR-2 Granite 
BR-4 Granite 
BR-8 Granite 
CM-1 Flanger 
CM-1 Phase 
CM-1 Variable 
CM-2 Chorus 
CM-2 Cross 
CM-2 Detune 
CO-1 Basic 
CO-2 Spice 
HP-8 Razor 
LP-3 Rubber 
LP-6 Aqua 
M2S Comb 
M2S Phase 
MF-2 Spice 
MF-2 Swiss 
MF-4 Swiss 
SH-1 Destroy 
WA-3 Wackah 
WA-5 Quack 
WA-8 Oohwah 
Granular 
Granular Delay 
InterSeq16 
InterSeq4 
InterSeq8 
Override Delay 
Modulation 
Draw LFO 
Draw LFO XY 
Pattern LFO 
Oscillators 
Aliasaw Simple Gate 
Aliasaw Simple Sync 
AliasawSimple 
FR Pulse 
FR Saw Double 
FR Saw Flip 
FR Saw Width 
FR Saw-Tri 
FR Saw 
FR Square Double 
FR Square Width 
FR Square 
FR Trapezoid 
Fixed Formant 
Soft Sync 
String Simple 
String Variable Sequencers 
Shapers
Additive 16 
Additive 4 
Additive 8 
Fuzz 
Germanium Drive 
Hard Drive 
Heavy Distortion 
Hexa-Drive 
Neo Distortion 
Ripple Drive 
Smokey Distortion 
Soft PWM 
Squash 
Thick Drive 
Vanilla Distortion 
Tools 
Freq 2 Note 
M-S Decoder 
M-S Encoder 
Matrix 8x8 
Matrix4x4 
Michu's Avoider 
ModMix2 
ModMix4 
ModMix8 
Note Driven Switch 
Scale Tuning 
Envelopes 
Hyper D envelope 
Vintage AR envelope 
Vintage ADSR 
MSE 1st Step 
MSE Attack 
MSE Loop 
MSE Mid Step 
MSE Release 
MSE SustMod 
MSE Sustain 
MSEC 1st Step 
MSEC 1st StepMod 
MSEC AttMod 
MSEC Attack 
MSEC Mid Step 
MSEC MidStepMod 
MSEC Rel Mod 
MSEC Release 
Sequencers
Hyper Control Seq 
Interpolated Control Seq 
Ramp Distribute 32 
Ramp Distribute 64 
SeqJoiner32 
SeqJoiner64 
Mod Switch 16 to 1 
Mod Switch 2 to 1 
Mod Switch 5 to 1 
Mod Switch 8 to 1 
Mod Switch 1 to 16 
Mod Switch 1 to 2 
Mod Switch 1 to 4 
Mod Switch 1 to 8 
Thr Switch 1 to 2 
Thr Switch 2 to 1