Freezing problems using Pulsar 2 on new P4 DAW

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:31 pm

Can you disable the active sensing messages?

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:32 pm

On 2004-08-02 02:23, sharcsound wrote:
I tried the Registry Mechanic free evaluation version. http://www.winguides.com/ 'Registry Mechanic is an advanced registry cleaner for Windows that can safely clean and repair problems with your registry in a few simple mouse clicks! Easily fix problems with the Windows registry that are a common cause of crashes and error messages.' If you have nothing wrong in the registry you can look elsewhere for the source of SCOPE problems.

I have an ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe board running a 3.2 CPU with HT on. The SCOPE board is the only PCI board. A few re-installations of SCOPE 4.0 on top of itself seems to have sorted out any freezing problems I was having.

@ what cpu-load doas you system starts to produce crackles?
is it possible, to boost it up to 90%?

just interesting...

best,
andre

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:52 pm

Guitar controller in the second card brought n freezes as well.

Edit: Is it fair to assume that those superfluous MIDI messages should be filtered out BEFORE entering the Pulsars?

[ This Message was edited by: paulrmartin on 2004-08-02 14:19 ]

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:32 pm

On 2004-08-02 13:52, paulrmartin wrote:

Edit: Is it fair to assume that those superfluous MIDI messages should be filtered out BEFORE entering the Pulsars?

Every MIDI byte generates an interrupt I would think, so, I think your assumption is incorrect.

[ This Message was edited by: BingoTheClowno on 2004-08-02 14:34 ]

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:00 pm

I have now come to the definite conclusion that there is something wrong with MIDI inputs.

What do I do then?

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:03 pm

Sorry, what operating system are you using?

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:14 pm

Oops, (forgot to add that to my list, eh)

Windows XP Pro

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:16 pm

Another AndreD tip was to leave the midi keyboard off (or unconnected) until after scope was launched. Strange eh? I don't have these problems although both my midi keyboards send those annoying active sense data.

There's a number of BIOS settings I've made for this mboard that maybe influences the performance. I'll pm you with my phone # in Toronto if you'd like to give me a call - there's too many details to cover reliably in a post.

/dave

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:47 pm

Well, Dave was certainly fun to talk with on the phone. Thanks, man. Hope to meet you face to face one day

Step-by-step intructions on tweaking my BIOS "LIVE and DIRECT"

Anyways, MIDI is certainly the thing I now have to fix as the computer still froze while I had my back turned.

Any suggestions on what to get?

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:41 am

On 2004-08-02 15:16, dbmac wrote:
There's a number of BIOS settings I've made for this mboard that maybe influences the performance. I'll pm you with my phone # in Toronto if you'd like to give me a call - there's too many details to cover reliably in a post.

/dave

won´t you share some setting?

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:30 am

I have the same board as the other 2 Canadians. The ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE seems to be popular also in Canada, although I bought mine in Munich. All of us had the same SCOPE 4.0 system working fine with our former motherboard. I get freezing that seems to be MIDI related, now only when I play fast with damper pedal actions as well as with the Arp 02. I also get the freeze lock when I play my WX5 windcontroller with lots of pitch bends and fast playing. The computer can't seem to handle the MIDI stream. I read in the SCOPE manual that the card should be in one of the center slots. I use slot 4 with no conflicts but some IRQ and memory sharing with other devices.

I get to Microsoft System Information through MS Word, under Help/About/System Info. Here is some data that I found about my system that might give someone a clue as to where the problem is:

MICROSOFT SYSTEM INFORMATION 7.0

SYSTEM SUMMARY:

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 GenuineIntel ~2798 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 GenuineIntel ~2798 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 1016.001, 2/23/2004
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:WINDOWS
System Directory C:WINDOWSSystem32
Boot Device DeviceHarddiskDmVolumesBlueminorDg0Volume1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)"
Time Zone W. Europe Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 651.53 MB
Total Virtual Memory 5.35 GB
Available Virtual Memory 4.72 GB
Page File Space 4.35 GB
Page File C:pagefile.sys

DRIVES:

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model IBM-DTLA-307045

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer Seagate
Model ST3200822AS (S-ATA)

Description Disk drive
Manufacturer Seagate
Model ST3200822AS (S-ATA)

CONFLICTS/SHARING:

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200

IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2

IRQ 18 Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT Network Connection
IRQ 18 Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB Intel(R) 82875P Processor to AGP Controller - 2579
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200

IRQs:

IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Easy Internet Keyboard OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 10 Intel(R) 82801EB SMBus Controller - 24D3 OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 OK
IRQ 16 Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2 OK
IRQ 18 Intel(R) PRO/1000 CT Network Connection OK
IRQ 18 Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers OK
IRQ 19 Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4 OK
IRQ 20 Creamware Pulsar2 OK
IRQ 23 Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD OK

USB:

HID-compliant Cordless Mouse HIDVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_01&COL017&30513815&0&0000
HID-compliant Cordless Mouse HIDVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_01&COL047&30513815&0&0003
HID-compliant consumer control device HIDVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_01&COL027&30513815&0&0001
HID-compliant device HIDVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_01&COL037&30513815&0&0002
Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2 PCIVEN_8086&DEV_24D2&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_023&267A616A&0&E8
Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4 PCIVEN_8086&DEV_24D4&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_023&267A616A&0&E9
Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD PCIVEN_8086&DEV_24DD&SUBSYS_80A61043&REV_023&267A616A&0&EF
Logitech Cordless Dual USB Mouse & iTouch Keys USBVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_016&132910E6&0&0001
Logitech Cordless USB Keyboard USBVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_006&132910E6&0&0000
Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard HIDVID_046D&PID_C504&MI_007&34A1F61B&0&0000
USB Composite Device USBVID_046D&PID_C5045&3AD090D&1&1
USB Printing Support USBVID_03F0&PID_1904CN3481836X4H
USB Root Hub USBROOT_HUB4&CB41D3B&0
USB Root Hub USBROOT_HUB4&1C4B7D9B&0
USB Root Hub USBROOT_HUB204&F180E13&2
hp deskjet 3820 series USBPRINTHEWLETT-PACKARDDESKJET_38206&8924C0A&1&USB001

WINDOWS ERROR REPORTING:

8/1/2004 4:59 PM Application Error Faulting application sfp.exe, version 1.0.0.1, faulting module cdxp.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x000011bf.

Thanks

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:50 am

you should use slot 1 and/or 5 for CW-cards only.
if you own one card only, leave 1 or 5 blank!

have you tryed to connect the midicable after scope was started?

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:01 am

I can't use slot 5 because the Zalman graphic card heatsink is in the way. I can try slot 1 but I will have to first remove some Black Noise acoustic baffle which will get in the way. I'll do this later today. I didn't connect MIDI after bootup but will try that also.
Thanks for the tips.

Richard

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:04 am

maybe, you have to connect the midicable after the project was loaded ?!

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:05 am

The other way around. I can't use slot 1 beside the graphic card. I try slot 5.

R.

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:12 am

On 2004-08-03 01:41, AndreD wrote:

won´t you share some setting?

We just went through the BIOS and compared our settings, mainly disabling devices like onboard audio, lan, firewire etc. Nothing too esoteric.

/dave

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:05 am

I'm now running the SCOPE board in slot 5 of the ASUS P4C800-E-DELUXE board. I've been having no freezes for the last hour and a half, even though I've been using lots of Mod and Pitch controllers and also using the Arp 02 and my windcontroller. I also connected the MIDI cable after the project was loaded, so now I don't know which change works to stop the freezes, but I am not having any. I will leave the board in slot 5, and it's also on it's own IRQ channel 21 by itself as well.

One other thing I found was that I had a MIDI cable coming out of my Pocket Thru and going back to my Doepfer controller as an input from my pedals for split zones. I haven't been using this and promptly disconnected it. This could have been one of the reasons for the stuck notes with the arppeggiator.

Many thanks Andre. Next time your in Wien come by for a glass of wine.

Richard

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:09 am

I'll change the second card's slot to 5 later and come back to you with pics of my screen. It should be helpful to someone.

For now I have to get some work done(thankfully without MIDI)

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:18 am

Here we go with the pics of my Bios.
PLease keep in mind that the opening SplashScreen is a bitch to photograph since it just doesn't stay long enough to allow a proper focus:

Is that ok?

[ This Message was edited by: paulrmartin on 2004-08-03 10:20 ]

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:43 am

You can pause the BIOS lines in the beginning of a boot by pressing... Pause.

Strange that u dont have primary master - must it be on slave for it not to boot from the primary, but from third IDE? I suppose the 3rd is S-ATA?

You can disable the 'serial port adress's, and the parallel port, if u don't use them, it saves 3 IRQ's. Also, I think you don't need IRQ for PCI VGA, when an AGP card is installed. See this page.

No idea weither this will solve the problem, but it's how I'd set it up for me...