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astroman wrote:

hifiboom wrote:...
thats why I think bundling the higher end plug-ins with a card will be much better way to go....
look if warp sells 100 x 99, he gets ...

actually it's not the main point in this context what he gets - he made a reasonable price based on a reasonable estimation of possible sales
The only thing that was not reasonable was the reaction of the 'customer base'

The reverb was a steal at that price, and (good) plate and chorus-delay algorithms are among the most used - there was no competition, the device was well known (estimated by downloads and 'reviews'), so give me one good reason why it didn't sell a thoudand copies in 3 month ...

don't misunderstand me - the P100 is just an example, you will find the same pattern with every device that isn't part of a bundle.
No problem, basically...
if there wouldn't be a wishlist from here to the moon every couple of month what CWA or the 3rd parties are supposed to do to 'stay in business'
LMAO - pardon me, what business ???

THAT is the main problem to be solved, so to say

cheers, Tom

I thought the P100 sounded GREAT when I tried it out. There was one reason I didn't buy it, and that was this....

The Scope hardware architecture.

I've never had very good luck using PCI/memory-hogging devices in Scope. STS, the old 4080L reverb, whenever I used them it cut way down on my ASIO performance, as well as ticks and pops from the devices themselves. As I've been using more system-hungry native synths, I was starting to run into problems. So I've ditched the STS and the 4080L entirely and am using native reverbs and samplers, which work a lot better. I really wish I could get some new cool reverbs for Scope, but I'm not willing to try for performance reasons.

If Scope had its own onboard memory there wouldn't be any problem, AS WE ALL KNOW.

Shayne

Shayne White wrote:... If Scope had its own onboard memory there wouldn't be any problem, AS WE ALL KNOW. ...

it's ridiculous to use design decisions that had to be made > decade ago under completely different hardware-preconditions to excuse (or explain) non-purchase habits.

if there were this and that - yes, then I would...
first they gotta fix bla bla bla - then I would consider...

always the same story, but still the system performs (almost) flawless in ANY reasonable setup BUT A $45 GAMER MOBO DOES NOT QUALIFY AS SUCH

just because people are used to infinite attempts (called updates) by a number of companies who can't get their stuff right, DOES NOT mean that a product without 'updates' is less sophisticated or worse performing - the opposite might be the case.

Shayne's individual problem is as representative as my overly exaggerated device purchases - these are exceptions and not the rule
btw I have a quality (in the league of the P100) native reverb, too - if in use I can safely forget about any sophisticated native softsynths or processors...

Scope on Windows XP is for sure more productive than any sh*t you (may) get on Vista currently - it's a classic like the Minimoog or the Fender bass

cheers, Tom

an Access Virus or any of John's synths are structured exponentially more simple than the basic Scope Fusion Platform - there may be side effects not immediately obvious from 'outside'.

not that I want to justify all and every action (or missing) of the past, and there were for sure mistakes by management as in every company, in particular with repeating financial problems...
but still (imho) the perspective is focussed more on the image side of things than on facts and productivity.

cheers, Tom