Freezing problems using Pulsar 2 on new P4 DAW

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:30 am

On 2004-07-30 22:51, BingoTheClowno wrote:

If you reinstall, please choose these basic options in the BIOS before anything: Non Plug & Play OS, HT enabled, AGP Aperture (as much as posible ), ACPI disabled. During Windows install, press F5 I think or F6 or F8 (not sure), and choose MPS Multiprocessor PC if you have HT enabled otherwise Standard PC.

Good luck!

I don't undertstand, Bingo. All these BIOS tweaks are exactly the opposite of the recommendations that are all over the forums here.

Can you explain why I should do this?

Thanks

(AGP Aperture does not appear in the P4P800's BIOS, btw)

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:11 am

Andre, I ran Memtest and found no errors.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:26 am

On 2004-07-31 10:11, paulrmartin wrote:
Andre, I ran Memtest and found no errors.

good for you, bad for problem-sloving

i recommand to start the installation without any bios "tweaks" too.
my system runs "out of the box" without any changes.
we had problems with all deluxe boards during our tests.
hope, thats not unfixable in your case.
i strictly recommand the asus p4p800 se (NO DELUXE)
one thing again:
doas your system freezes too if there is nothing connected to the physical midi port?

best,
andre

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:56 am

I only connect my keyboard to the CW MIDI in.

I'll see what I can do without the keyboard connected.

Now, if no freezes occur what do I do? I will still need my keyboard controller.

[ This Message was edited by: paulrmartin on 2004-07-31 11:18 ]

sharcsound · Post by **sharcsound** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 11:29 am

Hi Paul. I'll try to help a fellow Canadian with the advice to reinstall SCOPE over the top of the original installation. It sure helped me to stop my computer from freezing. The only thing I did different with the install was to accept to install the XTC VST plugs. Because I never use XTC I never installed the VST plugins the first time. This time I accepted to install them. I don't know if this had anything to do with it, or perhaps the reinstallation altered some registry settings, but until now I don't have any freezing.

I have the ASUS PC800-E Deluxe board. Many other musicians and studios use the same board without problems, so I don't see any reason to switch to some other ASUS PC800 variation board with less extras.

In this forum everybody with computer freezing problems also has a SCOPE audio system. If SCOPE is temporarily disabled is there still freezing? If not, the problem is with the SCOPE installation. Most of us had the same SCOPE card working fine in another computer. Logic tells me that the freezing problem has to do with a faulty installation of SCOPE.

Let me know how the next chapter goes.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:11 pm

Captain's log 16:00 hours, saturday...

Since 14:30 I have been playing the same tune in a loop in Logic gradually adding more and more CPU intensive effects. No crashes yet.

Keeping the more visual effects on top to see how the graphics will react...

Go figure

(hehe. now I find myself longing for a freeze)

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:53 pm

17:00

Stopped Logic, Closed Logic, Reopened Logic and reloaded the now effect heavy project. No freezes occured.

Closed Logic.

Opened a video file and exactly 2 minutes into the movie the computer froze.(Man I wish I could sample that stuttering gunshot sound

)

Graphic card problem, you think?
Maybe the card gets too hot? (Matrox G550)

Oh yeah, I did not have MIDI connected to my card all that time

[ This Message was edited by: paulrmartin on 2004-07-31 16:56 ]

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:00 pm

doas the numer of wave source/dest modules match to the number of widows-multimadea-devices?

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:03 pm

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:06 pm

what kind of video-software?

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:17 pm

Media player classic, or Winamp, Kazaa-lite Codec pack

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:19 pm

..and what kind of file?
(i´ll try to reproduce this issue)

by the way, i´m watching dvds with my scope-system often

(media-player)

[ This Message was edited by: AndreD on 2004-07-31 17:20 ]

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:22 pm

..and how many wave/source mods are in use?
can you send me your scope.pro by email?

[ This Message was edited by: AndreD on 2004-07-31 17:22 ]

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:38 pm

Project sent

Everything was going on in Logic, Synths, effects, everything. Logic is my work horse and I use SFP devices when I need them, which isn't always.

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:16 pm

On 2004-07-31 17:19, AndreD wrote:
..and what kind of file?
(i´ll try to reproduce this issue)

by the way, i´m watching dvds with my scope-system often
(media-player)

[ This Message was edited by: AndreD on 2004-07-31 17:20 ]

A .avi file was what I was watching.
I have of course rebooted right after the last freeze and opened all kinds of different Logic songs without a freeze so far.

Post by **hubird** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:57 pm

getting closer...?
keep on going Paul!

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:24 pm

hi paul,
i´m sorry!
60 min video without a freeze even with your project...
i have a matrox g 550 too!
what scope-hardware / what pci slot?
you should use slot 1 and 5 for scope only.
also, try to add a 2nd wave source/dest module.
two 24bit maybe?

all the best!

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:28 pm

I hope this isn't too obvious, but have you disabled bus mastering in the Matrox options?

/dave

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:32 pm

the only thing that should be active is 32zbuffer..
disable the rest.
but that should´nt lead to freeze-crashas...

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:33 pm

Bus mastering disabled since wednesday, Dave. I did not know about that before then.

PCI slots, yeah, gotta try that then.

Plugged my keyboard in and got an almost immediate freeze...

Let me change the cards' place and get back to you.

Thanks a whole bunch, guys. You truely are friends