Some experiences with PulsarII with AMD K8?

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VenuZ
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Post by VenuZ »

Hi,
I'm considering to upgrade my PIV 1,8Ghz with pc133 ram and I'm thinking about Athlon K8 with ASUS Mb... Someone has some experiences using it with Pulsar?
Thanx in advance for any help :wink:

gab
Raniel Or
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Post by Raniel Or »

Hi VenuZ,

I guess you ment Athlon and K8T800 VIA chipset on Asus mobo. Luckily for you, I recently purchased AMD based system. When I asked here a month ago I've got a lot of good advice but it was all speculating since Intel is usualy used and the ones using AMD were using AthlonXP. So I'll try to share a bit of my experiance. :smile:

My configuration is:

Athlon64 3200+
Asus K8V Delux (VIA K8T800 Chipset)
Zalman CPU cooler (very important)

Pulsar-1 (six years old but still kicking :grin:)

Unfortunatly, I get a system hang when trying to adding audio tracks or changing output bus or when changing output bus configuration in Cubase SX. At first I was using Athlon64 3000+. my DAW would get totaly hanged, not letting me do anything after 1-2 changes (same as CPU load to 100%, but CPU was as it should - about 20-30% with my project - BUT the memory page file jumps from 300MB to 1.2Giga and stays there), leaving me no choice but reseting manualy (restart wouldn't work).

After I upgraded my processor to 3200+ and some configuration and optimization of my system (mainly to do with loading right ASIO drivers in SFP and cunfiguring Cubase the right way, which I guess must be done with every system to make it work smoothly), I can make several changes (about 7-15) before my Cubase hangs, but my system doesn't hang. This means that I can set output bus configuration, add all the audio tracks I need and set them to the outputs I want, then save the .CPR file (Cubase SX project), close cubase, re-open it and load the saved file and everything is working perfect!

I could change to Intel based but decided to stick with AMD for these reasons:
  • I tried checking it on my old system Intel P3 1GHZ with Asus mobo(Intel chipset). I've got same hang there too! (I wasn't using Cubase SX so I wasn't aware of this).
    Its only logical to me that my problem has nothing to do with the CPU or chipset but is probably related to Cubaseq/ASIO. Changing to Intel would probably make no difference.
  • When considering Athlon you should put in mind that for now the 64bit technology is not implemented in the programs we use and this is probably going to stay this way for the next 2 years, so the main feature of this processor would not be used for now.
    but when considaring Intel - P4 Main feature HT is also known to create strange problems in some cases and also not supported by some applications.
  • P4 3.2GHZe (1MB cache) is less recommanded than 3.2GHZc (512KB cache). You can read about it in the furum.
    Athlon64 3200+ has 1152KB cache! and is cheaper than P4 3.2GHZ e & c.
  • I try looking 2-3 years from now - you'd change the programs you use, and have all your older projects on the older system. you'd probably want to use the old system with the new one. Athlon64 will still be kickng as 64bit tech will probably be common.
  • besides that 1 problem - my system really kick ass!
Hope this helps!
Rani
VenuZ
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Post by VenuZ »

Thanx a lot for your great and very useful reply... I will consider your experiences and I will let you now about my final choice :wink:
thanx again!

gab
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