I'm going to check all these eq's out.
Also don't forget Celmo's Pultecator....
the UAD Pultec has one of the sweetest top ends I've heard (Fantastic on vocals), but has no mid-range unless you shell out more $s - Celmo's comes pretty close, has the mids and at a fraction of the cost !.....possibly my next purchase as it's an absolute steal at the price.
Timeworks Vintage EQ is quite good - in fact I use it all the time, but I must confess I don't really hear that much character in it....???
A good EQ... honestly ;)
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hubird
A friend who considers himself as a sound designer often asked me how this or that equalizer did sound...
I used to tell him that an equalizer doesn't sound, you have to put sound through it
He's the type of guy that usually forgets that what you do with equalizers is of much more influence than the eq 'on it's own'.
I still think that's true, but I learned my lesson
.I now think that 90% comes from your own hands, the remaining 10% adds the eq, BUT...this 10% offer a quality jump bigger than the 10% worth.
So you can do without, but you'll miss more than 10%
Complete OT, sorry
BTW, it was the BlueTube eq from (polish) PSP which changed my mind seriously
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2004-06-11 19:10 ]</font>
I used to tell him that an equalizer doesn't sound, you have to put sound through it
He's the type of guy that usually forgets that what you do with equalizers is of much more influence than the eq 'on it's own'.
I still think that's true, but I learned my lesson
.I now think that 90% comes from your own hands, the remaining 10% adds the eq, BUT...this 10% offer a quality jump bigger than the 10% worth.So you can do without, but you'll miss more than 10%
Complete OT, sorry
BTW, it was the BlueTube eq from (polish) PSP which changed my mind seriously
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2004-06-11 19:10 ]</font>
Hello to all!
For those interested, I am uploading a comparison of ISON and Sonalksis EQs (these are the ones that I can lay my hands on).
Have a listen and tell me which one do you prefer!
I could maybe upload the original unprocessed file (in flac format), so that other people could process it with different plug-ins. Then we could compare all of them and decide, which one(s) we like best.
I ll point you to the thread as soon as I have uploaded it!
P.S. I tried to upload it but with no success!
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For those interested, I am uploading a comparison of ISON and Sonalksis EQs (these are the ones that I can lay my hands on).
Have a listen and tell me which one do you prefer!
I could maybe upload the original unprocessed file (in flac format), so that other people could process it with different plug-ins. Then we could compare all of them and decide, which one(s) we like best.
I ll point you to the thread as soon as I have uploaded it!
P.S. I tried to upload it but with no success!
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: rodos1979 on 2004-06-11 20:23 ]</font>
Thanks for the test samples.
I've only listened to highshelf ones, but would like to add my comment.
EQ1 sounds a bit brighter, which brings more finger & fret noise up. EQ2 sounds smoother, but still brings the dynamics out, which suits much better for this kind of target. So I'd say, EQ2 sounds better in this test. EQ1 is not bad either, but I just prefer the smoothnes of EQ2 for dynamic classical guitar.
Anyway, all this just my opinions
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I've only listened to highshelf ones, but would like to add my comment.
EQ1 sounds a bit brighter, which brings more finger & fret noise up. EQ2 sounds smoother, but still brings the dynamics out, which suits much better for this kind of target. So I'd say, EQ2 sounds better in this test. EQ1 is not bad either, but I just prefer the smoothnes of EQ2 for dynamic classical guitar.
Anyway, all this just my opinions
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Mmm...I dont know why it is not there... 
I ll see if I can fix it (again!!
)...
Where could I post it on the PlanetZ? I tried to put it in the music section the first time but I got a message "Thread could not be entered into the database"
....
BTW, so we seem to have 1 vote for EQ2 up to the moment...
I ll see if I can fix it (again!!
)...Where could I post it on the PlanetZ? I tried to put it in the music section the first time but I got a message "Thread could not be entered into the database"
....
BTW, so we seem to have 1 vote for EQ2 up to the moment...
well, the Oxford is usually applied in an absolute high end environments - maybe it's nothing but a good equalizer (as all the others mentioned above), which sounds great because it's placed in the midth of fine gear ?
And of course it carries it's magic around when transplanted via software into a DAW.
There ARE people hearing a different sound by exchanging the main power cable
cheers, Tom
ps I bought the ISON because I don't have any VST stuff, so choice was really easy
And of course it carries it's magic around when transplanted via software into a DAW.
There ARE people hearing a different sound by exchanging the main power cable
cheers, Tom
ps I bought the ISON because I don't have any VST stuff, so choice was really easy
Agree 100%!On 2004-06-14 06:50, astroman wrote:
well, the Oxford is usually applied in an absolute high end environments - maybe it's nothing but a good equalizer (as all the others mentioned above), which sounds great because it's placed in the midth of fine gear ?
People with LOTS of imagination I would say!...There ARE people hearing a different sound by exchanging the main power cable
I did'n know TC powercore is absotute hi-end. I'm shure Sony EQ is. And I know some people buy cables for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and they tell that those cables SOUNDS better. If it helps them to make good music/ mixes and they want to spend their money on it thats OK - I'm happy of their happynees.
I'm talking about Sony EQ NOT because someone told me : this is the best. I was looking for good EQ for my needs. And I tested plenty of EQs hardware and software. I found Sony is much better than any Logic, Nuendo , or even DSP powered plugins (e.g. from UAD-1 or ProTools plugins) and hardware gear. And it was very hard decision to spend lots of money on it, but EQ is my major tool.
I think it is much better to have a very few very good tools than thousends cheap and poor..
Maybe ISON, is better. When I'll try I'll belive (and I'll cry of my lost money)
All the best
I'm talking about Sony EQ NOT because someone told me : this is the best. I was looking for good EQ for my needs. And I tested plenty of EQs hardware and software. I found Sony is much better than any Logic, Nuendo , or even DSP powered plugins (e.g. from UAD-1 or ProTools plugins) and hardware gear. And it was very hard decision to spend lots of money on it, but EQ is my major tool.
I think it is much better to have a very few very good tools than thousends cheap and poor..
Maybe ISON, is better. When I'll try I'll belive (and I'll cry of my lost money)
All the best
yeah ksamus, I admit that my post is somewhat misplaced and may imply judgements about your choice of gear that wasn't intended - and wouldn't even be appropriate.
I just wanted to bring that point to notice which is frequently overlooked.
To compare somthing it must be comparable - and the overall analog design is virtually non-existent in press.
Most of the 'famous' stuff earned it's reputation in co-operation with top of the line gear and the eq from that console is no exception.
Let's leave out the marketing blah etc etc - I completely agree with your way of choice: by ear
I also have to admit that one of the few things that brings me up quite a bit is 'brand versus quality'. For years now 'big names' are requested repeatingly while some great stuff available on SFP is ignored - really ignored.
Of course this is in no way related to your post - just my fault when I read certain things together...
cheers, Tom
I just wanted to bring that point to notice which is frequently overlooked.
To compare somthing it must be comparable - and the overall analog design is virtually non-existent in press.
Most of the 'famous' stuff earned it's reputation in co-operation with top of the line gear and the eq from that console is no exception.
Let's leave out the marketing blah etc etc - I completely agree with your way of choice: by ear
I also have to admit that one of the few things that brings me up quite a bit is 'brand versus quality'. For years now 'big names' are requested repeatingly while some great stuff available on SFP is ignored - really ignored.
Of course this is in no way related to your post - just my fault when I read certain things together...
cheers, Tom