CWA / PlanetZ sound demo contest !!

decimator · Post by **decimator** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:29 pm

Considering the numbers of views this thread got before closure date, we can reasonably expect that more than a hundred people could have submitted more than one demo in the 1-2 minutes range ( 20 - 40 sec was unmakeable from my standpoint ).
That's several hours of audio !! but not once since the menbers of the jury has to weight the + and - , doubts and more doubts ... etc

My guess is that they weren't prepared to be " demos judges " as maybe we weren't prepared also to be demos makers !

Speaking for myself, I know this has been a fruitful experience and I think I was beginning to be not too bad when the round bell was hit !!!

It's a very ( too ) busy time for CWA and I'd prefer them to make one good step after an another than rush in disorder.

Otherwise, I'am mostly not too unhappy with my demos, if one makes it to the site, I may even rebuy the synth !

But maybe plenty of lost sales also !

fortune · Post by **fortune** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:12 pm

Hi all,

as we did not expect such a huge amount of participients (about 100 MB of stuff) it will take a little longer to judge.

We hope to announce the winners on Monday.

Cheers
Fortune

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:29 pm

That's fine, I completely understand. Thanks for letting us know!

Shayne

petal · Post by **petal** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:39 pm

community

Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:33 pm

hehe...will CWA give any "prizes" for those that dont win? ie. discounts towards a plugin purchase? how about something like 20%? I'm still dreaming about getting me hands on the Pro1...

come on CWA

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:16 am

Hey
the only thing i can say (from what i have heard on this forum) is:

There are a lot of talented musicians who really put their harts in music who are truly exploiting the SFP platform to the full extent. BUT (and this is not a mocking of everyone else): If there is ONE guy Creamware should contact for making demos and have as a reference, and i hope people agree with me:

Thalamus (Noah Laux) has delivered some truly outstanding pieces to this forum. Not only do he fully utilize the true sonic aspect of our beloved soundcards, but he also utilize lot of SFP plugs

This is a guy CWA really should adrse

Well, its only my opinion.

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:54 am

Sounds more like someone they should feature in an artist/producer section of the site

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:43 am

now i'm happy!

eliam · Post by **eliam** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:00 am

I worked real hard on 2 pieces and for an unknown reason my mail server didn't let me post the mp3s... And CWA won't accept links to my web server. Could anyone forward them for me? That would be really appreciated! Hoping I'm not too late already...

here are the links anyway: http://www.elieonline.net/spatial_forest.mp3
http://www.elieonline.net/opulence.mp3

[ This Message was edited by: eliam on 2004-03-28 11:49 ]

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:23 am

I tried to send them but couldn't. I think a lot of mailservers have maximum of 5 Mb filesize so you should make your demo a bit shorter. Also there seemed to be a lot of artifacts in your mp3's, you may want to check that out.

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:56 am

actually, this day is very long...
i think we will have to wait and suffer some more time to know the results!

Post by **Guest** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:15 pm

delays as usual....looks like the web site aint gonna be finished in time. how tragic....i thought CWA was gonna get things right this time....

anyway some nice demos...i quite liked the one created by 'king of snake'

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:41 pm

Perhaps they'll just announce everything with a bang on Wednesday, Web site and all. But even if they don't, I hope we can get a few juicy press releases.

Shayne

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:11 pm

Since everybody seems to be putting up their CreamWare demos, I will too! I made only two demos: you can download my MiniMax demo <a href="http://www.shaynesworld.com/minimax_demo.mp3">here</a> and my ModIII demo <a href="http://www.shaynesworld.com/mod3_demo.mp3">here</a>.
I hope you enjoy them!!

Shayne

fortune · Post by **fortune** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:48 am

Hi,

here are two major news according the contest:
1st: the deadline of the contest is prolonged till the day after eastern (April 13th 2004)! This is partly due to building up the new CWA-website to the extend needed. Anyway the new site will be up on wednesday this week basically.

2nd: by now it has been quite difficult to judge the sendings. Many sendings have not hit the target being taken as a "demo". If one has a look and listen how demostuff is made in general it will be noticed there are demosongs or some kind of medleys with several different phrases showing the variety of sounds or the special potential of a machine or software. Therefor a 2-minute evolving pad is not really apt for a demo just as stepping through presets without a musical context is not really suited as well.

Here are some further hints:
Be sure to have normalized Your sending.
Some sendings have a really low volume and lack punch which could be obtained without any big effort. So these cannot be taken as a demo as everybody will understand.

Please take this into your considerations and as a further chance.

best wishes & good luck
Fortune

[ This Message was edited by: fortune on 2004-03-30 05:51 ]

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:52 am

On 2004-03-29 19:11, Shayne White wrote:
Since everybody seems to be putting up their CreamWare demos, I will too! I made only two demos: you can download my MiniMax demo <a href="http://www.shaynesworld.com/minimax_demo.mp3">here</a> and my ModIII demo <a href="http://www.shaynesworld.com/mod3_demo.mp3">here</a>.
I hope you enjoy them!!

Shayne

nice demo's! Especially the Minimax one

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:55 am

2nd: by now it has been quite difficult to judge the sendings. Many sendings have not hit the target being taken as a "demo". If one has a look and listen how demostuff is made in general it will be noticed there are demosongs or some kind of medleys with several different phrases showing the variety of sounds or the special potential of a machine or software. Therefor a 2-minute evolving pad is not really apt for a demo just as stepping through presets without a musical context is not really suited as well.

I'm not a big fan of "medley" demo's myself, and I don't think that should be the only form of admitted demo. But I agree about the evolving pad or presets, it's gotta show off a bunch of different sounds (at least 5 or 6 in one minute) in a musical context.

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Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:56 am

That's actually my first encounter with the Minimax sound!

Very smooth indeed...has somebody given Keith Emerson a call?

Royston

(edit: reference to Shayne's demo, btw)
(edit2: gah! learn to type!)

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powerpulsarian · Post by **powerpulsarian** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:28 am

2nd: by now it has been quite difficult to judge the sendings. Many sendings have not hit the target being taken as a "demo". If one has a look and listen how demostuff is made in general it will be noticed there are demosongs or some kind of medleys with several different phrases showing the variety of sounds or the special potential of a machine or software.

I absolutely hate medley type demos

- they are not interesting to listen to at all and why most demos completly suck.

I would much rather hear a "real-life" example that shows off the sound. A real song that shows how the synth can be used in the context of other instruments is much more appealing to me.

That's my opinion.

fortune · Post by **fortune** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:36 am

Hi,

the contest is not restricted to a medley type demo, this as well as the term "demosong" has been used by me to illustrate what a demo in general is more alike i.e. showing a certain variety in sound. Although a 2minute evolving pad alone is quite nice at times it is demonstrating only a very narrow excerpt of the potential of a synth.

Coming to terms: if one can do a good demosong this is ok. If somebody is not going to do a song he might choose a medley type of several phrases linked together, but in a way listening to it is not like stepping through some presets for 2 seconds each - that is not a musical approach. On the other hand if someone has done a very extraordinary or dramatic sound like kensuguro's thunder38sec this will be ok as well. It is really a very exceptional example of what a CWA modular can do. (I mention this because Ken had posted somewhere to send this.)

But it was not me alone being astonished the mastering of some sendings did not meet basic expectations in terms of reflecting the possible level of soundquality. Unfortunately that's a major problem with several sendings: you just can't use these to demonstrate the soundquality of the products.

cheers
Fortune