DO NOT ORDER from Divia Digital

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:14 pm

Something like this happend to me to some time ago....and if i had friends like here in the planetz/CW-system comunity back then....well...then i would have had a chance to reedem myself.

I love and respect you all people !!!

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Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:55 am

Didn't anyone go to the police for this? This Michael Brown is a thief, so he should be brought into court.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:05 am

In conqere.

He IS a thief.
Bring him down !!!

Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:06 am

I posted this topic at Northernsounds: http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCG ... 3;t=005659

Originally posted by Bruce Richardson at Northernsounds:

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I saw that thread, and noticed that more than one of the ripped-off individuals paid by credit card. Sometimes, credit card companies have guarantees in place against fraudulent vendors, and the money can be recouped. The people in that thread need to contact their credit card companies regardless of their refund policy, because the banks holding those accounts will also help shut this guy down. If he loses the ability to take credit cards, he's dead meat and can at least be stopped from further ripping off musicians.

I don't really want to join that group since I have no Creamware products. But it seems that they are missing some obvious channels for assistance...can you post this information to that thread when you have an opportunity?

Best regards,
Bruce
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Bruce Richardson
Bruce Richardson Music

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huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:47 am

by the way, I have reported this to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center - which is run by the FBI. After reviewing the case, they forward the information on to local authorities to follow-up on.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:25 pm

I'm trully glad to hear this...

As I said before, if you need people supporting you in any way, I am available for such, I hope everything finishes well.

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:55 pm

it would be a terrible thing if a bunch of people decided for some reson to email his ISP / hosing service and mention that he was using their service to commit fraud.

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Post by **garyb** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:09 am

it's good that you reported it to the fbi,how about getting your money back thru the credit card company?it must be time for a claim......

borg · Post by **borg** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:51 pm

On 2003-09-03 23:55, Neutron wrote:
it would be a terrible thing if a bunch of people decided for some reson to email his ISP / hosing service and mention that he was using their service to commit fraud.

i don't if you mean it litteraly or sarcasm is involved, but i assume it would be better to tell them the facts (payment without delivery of goods in return), rather than being jury yourself and say he's guilty (although it sure seems so).

just trying to prevent YOU from being accused...

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 7:02 pm

If somebody does it to TRHEE people, to me the answer is pretty clear, isn't it?

Post by **garyb** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:28 am

actually,borgs advice is pretty good.the law is not always concerned with justice.it's best to do things properly and avoid charges of harrassment or slander,even isf you are right.really, the credit card company is first!if as borg suggested that the provider be informed that payment was made and the goods were not delivered(the facts),the provider can make their own assessment.

.it's not what you say it's how you say it.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:03 am

So what is going on finally? Any conclusions?

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:23 pm

nothing on my end yet. I have filed all the reports and am waiting now to see what comes out of it.

Leper · Post by **Leper** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:42 am

Just want to add here, that I ordered a Pulsar 2 from Diva Digital around 6 months ago, and it took around a month and a half to arrive, but I recieved it.

BlackSun · Post by **BlackSun** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:52 am

On 2003-09-08 20:23, huffcw wrote:
nothing on my end yet. I have filed all the reports and am waiting now to see what comes out of it.

any news??

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:09 am

still nothing. it seems to be a slow process to get anything done about it. hopefully I will hear something soon.

Subterfuse · Post by **Subterfuse** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:29 am

No way!!!

I just read this thread, and I know this guy!

He bought an EMU sampler from me last summer (2002) via PayPal and tried to use PayPal's chargeback features to rip me off, after paypal froze him because of other fraudulant accounts he had active. I got my money back via PayPal after 6 months of waiting. He apparently had multiple PayPal accounts via girlfriend and such and had other issues.

EDIT: The story is much longer, but he did the same thing to me: reassured me over the phone that it was paypal and not him doing it, then he would never follow up and talk to PayPal. I *still* have every scrap of email and such from that ordeal. It's the same Micheal Brown, same address.

EDIT 2: His email address at the time was Digitalplayer@hotmail.com

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Ashkenazy · Post by **Ashkenazy** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:10 am

This proves even more that this Michael Brown is a swindler.

Post by **garyb** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:03 pm

do a polite inquiry as to the status of the investigation with the credit card company.cc companies are normally pretty swift to action with this stuff.

BlackSun · Post by **BlackSun** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:59 am

hi again,
any news now?