wots the best synth for trance??

oioi · Post by **oioi** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:49 pm

so whats your advice? wots the fattist sounding synth?? big fat saws!!....??

[ This Message was edited by: oioi on 2003-09-23 20:50 ]

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:33 pm

Flexor:
http://www.adern.com/downloads/flexor_s ... rSweep.mp3 (one of my faves)

http://www.adern.com/downloads/flexor_s ... terFM1.mp3

Pro One:
http://www.creamware2.de/cw2/files/demo ... %20Syn.mp3

http://www.creamware2.de/cw2/files/demo ... %20Arp.mp3 (another of my faves)

Post by **hubird** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:50 pm

classicly spoken, Roland JD800
(wrong edit, took it away)
_________________
Let There Be Music!

[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2003-09-26 06:21 ]

[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2003-09-27 08:09 ]

wavelength · Post by **wavelength** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:51 pm

try my "supersaws" presets on my "sparC" synth, with a few notes of polyphony for the unison to take effect. six detunable saws with unison!

-Stephen

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:20 pm

Here's my try at it:

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&3

A mod patch for modIII and mo2 that does saws. 6 detunable osc.

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:45 pm

Minimax running into the Vinco, then into the Big Multitap from EarlyFirst sounds pretty fat. That with some editing can make some really nice riffs.

oioi · Post by **oioi** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:21 pm

i cant get anything that sounds like the soumd im after, the super saw sound on roland sounds almost as if its got white noise or somthing distorting the overall sound...SCREEMS!! .... i want that sound!!

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:15 am

I posted an FM version of the above patch. Pretty close to the real thing if you ask me. Definitely worth a try.

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=15&0

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:10 am

Ken, out of interest
what do you think of FleXor's factory Septasaw patch?

wavelength · Post by **wavelength** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:38 am

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=17&0

<<< here is a patch i just quickly made with the sparC and a delay played directly into Wavelab. this isn't at all close enough? if you want it to bite even more you could simply apply a little EQ.

Cheers,

Stephen

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:16 pm

haven't had time to check out the final flexor patches yet. I'm sure I will once I get some time. Either way, I'm pretty sure that using a bunch of detunes saws isn't enough to model the roland supersaw. They've got some strange trick up their sleeves I'm sure.

dehuszar · Post by **dehuszar** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:15 pm

Neutron made a couple of screemers. I would also, oddly enough, recommend using the Inferno. Though it sounds cheezy just hitting notes, if you have some knobs and can keep the sound in motion (i.e. keep moving the knobs so as to keep the sound changing up, it is quite a little beast. And it already comes with SFP.

Otherwise, I'd back Stephan and say that the SparC is ripping (saving my pennies) or one of the iterations of the Plastic synth. Those wail too.

Sam

On 2003-09-24 18:21, oioi wrote:
i cant get anything that sounds like the soumd im after, the super saw sound on roland sounds almost as if its got white noise or somthing distorting the overall sound...SCREEMS!! .... i want that sound!!

oioi · Post by **oioi** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:15 pm

there is type of 'zing' to the latest trance traks... trying to come up with it is not an easy job.

dehuszar · Post by **dehuszar** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:39 pm

Any uncharted ideas (or ideas whose influences are sufficiently buried) have a zing to it. Therefore, I would think it to be dangerous to try to recreate it as you are by definition setting an expiration date on your window for success with what you are still trying to wrap your gear around.

You are always better off producing work that is heartfelt (even if violent and aggresive) and self-resonant and it will zing every time you play it for yourself and others.

The best part is that you can start today, building songs, not worrying about whether or not it has that 'zing' that you were looking for. I always prefer that not so fresh feeling over established zing.

My $.02

Sam

dehuszar · Post by **dehuszar** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:41 pm

Also, one last thing... a lot of that zing comes out during the mastering process. Write the songs, play with tones once you've got something to tinker with.

Sam

oioi · Post by **oioi** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:05 pm

im not talking about the overall sound of a track, im talking about the lead sount that the trance producers use(has zing to it or fm or some kind of distortion...) producers like Push, M.I.K.E, Corston , Armin van buran... thay all have 'that' lead sound and im at my wits ent trying to get it!! anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??

valis · Post by **valis** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:54 am

email me...

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:09 am

On 2003-09-25 18:05, oioi wrote:
im not talking about the overall sound of a track, im talking about the lead sount that the trance producers use(has zing to it or fm or some kind of distortion...) producers like Push, M.I.K.E, Corston , Armin van buran... thay all have 'that' lead sound and im at my wits ent trying to get it!! anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??

Jesus man that sound has been so fucking over-used I can't possibly understand why people still want it so badly. Ugh! Now go and be original and creative instead of yet another copycat.

Oh, and fuck cheesy trance!!!

_________________

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2003-09-26 03:11 ]

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:35 am

Just guessing here King, but I get the feeling you think that sound's been overused ?

Post by **hubird** » Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:53 am

O anybody know of a good place to up a small mp3 to show the kimd of sound??

oioi, you could upload a sample from one of your mentioned sources (take a nonrecognisable short sample) here on planetz.
I'm sure you get great help with a reconstruction on one or another synth, or the name of the precise synth used.
Just give us a second or two