Six-String for SFP announced

otter · Post by **otter** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 6:03 pm

ok we all expected this but now it´s official

price will be 249 € (special offer 199 € until 2/28/03)

link to article in german:
http://www1.keyboards.de/news/02/12/12/962.html

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sun Dec 22, 2002 7:17 pm

Looks nice, but don't CW make anything anymore priced under E200 ? The alternative is the Synapse Audio Plucked String for US$29.

ernest@303.nu · Post by **ernest@303.nu** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 7:24 pm

Unedited automatic translation from German to English by Babelfish... read an laugh

"CreamWare shows with the Six stringer a new virtual instrument for the systems of the SCOPE fusion platform on the winters NAMM Show in Anaheim (16.01. to 19,01,2003). Six stringer is based a virtual stringed instrument and on Physical Modeling technology. According to Creamware is Six stringer on basis of a completely again developed Physical Modeling procedure of stringed instruments as realistically as it so far still no other algorithm was able to realize. The emphasis is thereby on acoustic and electrical guitar sounds, in addition, other stringed instruments such as retort basses, e-basses, harps, Dulcimer, Sitar and other ethnical instruments are to be emulated convincingly. Due to profound editing possibilities also completely new sounds are possible, which orient themselves not at existing instruments and permit easily also sounds beyond the string emulation. Of dull/musty, wood-block-like sounds up to metallic bell sounds the rich spectrum Six stringer. The technological basis for the sound production Six stringer was developed by Dr. Rudolf Rabenstein and Dr. Lutz trusting man at the University of attain Nuernberg. Their completely new mathematical beginning permits it for the first time to compute a "genuine" string with all their physical parameters in real time. A multiplicity of factors, like string diameters and tension, material rigidity and suggestion, are capable for editing and have - according to Creamware - exactly the same influence on the sound as in the material world. Since Six stringer was developed particularly for the simulation of guitar sounds, it offers also parameters, which make possible e.g. the simulation of a Akustikgitarrenkorpus or copy a Pickup. With that variety of the direct access was put large value on an intuitive operation. So the user can select very simply different string types (steel, nylon, special bass strings...) and the position and kind of the suggestion for string affect (Plektrum, fingernail, finger crest...). He can adjust, between different Korpus profiles select two virtual pick-ups, the Slap behavior steers and much more besides. The sound production is rounded off by an effect section, which offers a guitar Amp beside Chorus and Delay also. A tube simulation is to supply thereby extremely realistic sounds of amplifier, from easily angezerrt to Heavy overdrive. Six stringer comes along over 250 sounds, which reflect the broad sound spectrum of the instrument and cover most different music directions. Six stringer is immediately in the CreamWare on-line Shop and with the CreamWare dealers available. The price amounts to 249 euro (introduction offer up to 28.2.03: 199 euro). In the on-line Shop under http://www.creamware.de a free demo version is available for the Download. A condition for the enterprise Plug in is one the CreamWare DSP of systems Luna, PowerSampler, Pulsar, Pulsar XTC or SCOPE/FR."

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Dec 23, 2002 7:43 pm

no demo yet

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igge · Post by **igge** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 2:16 pm

Still no demo on the online shop. Hmmm...
But the mp3 file sounded good.
Still, nothing can beat a real electric guitar plugged into a Behringer Vamp2 & GX110!

thermos · Post by **thermos** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:34 pm

heres some moe info

http://www.creamware.de/EN/products/sof ... atures.asp

i hope i can use only the amp/effect section on its own.

speaking of guitar toys, im pretty shure that if you decode the specs/features of the new line6 pod-xt into binaural numbers and then assemble them back to form a picture you will get a pin up photo.

thermos

thorkell · Post by **thorkell** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:05 pm

Nice - but personally I'm more exited about the B2003 organ. Wonder if that is going to be avalible for us to?

otter · Post by **otter** » Thu Jan 23, 2003 3:57 pm

wanna bet?

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:52 pm

anyone have news about six-strings? It's already announced on their first page.. but I don't see it in the shop. Am I missing something?

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:09 am

I have read about and it seems incredible good... hope so...

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Sat Jan 25, 2003 12:43 pm

I guess, it will be good - if you are not a guitarist. There are so many variables, that make the individual tone sound ... individual. Far too much to keep track of with such a thing (I believe - I don't know it, but I play guitar). Anyway, with a wide variety of sounds (and listeners), this does not realy matter much.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:43 am

I listened to the mp3 demos; they are a disaster!

a complete disaster...

Listening the songs, I can't believe in no way this is guitar sound. Imitations, sure. But not guitars and bass sounds, surely not.

This is dead sounds! CW has made researches to find live guitars and bass sounds, and they found dead guitars and bass sounds! From this point of view, Six-Strings is a complete disaster.

Maybe it will be an interesting instrument for some kind of researches (?), but in no way it can replace a guitar and a guitarist. In no way!
It can't replace an electric guitar, it can't replace a Flamenco guitar, it can't replace a bass guitar. There's no life in it.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:56 am

I was sort of thinking the same thing.. but was waiting for the demo cuz it may be just bad presets. The tunes really... are very lifeless I think. On par with GM level samples.. I wasn't too sure what to make of the demos..

I don't think physmod was intended to replace the real thing tho... more like a scientific endeavor the way I see it. But it does help if it were a bit more real than this tho. (from a user point of view)

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King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:15 am

Hmmmm, I think they sounded pretty convincing, but then again, I'm not really a guitar player. Of course it will take a lot of work to bring in the "life" since you'll have do it all with midi and twisting the knobs probably.
Anyway I wouldn't base my opinion on the demotunes too quickly, but first try out the demo itself.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 6:31 am

ya, I think that's a good idea.

Guillermo · Post by **Guillermo** » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:38 pm

I've downloaded the "six-string guitar demo". When I have listened the "Flamenco" part I began to laugh

It sounds like an old GM module. But try out the demo itself...

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:15 pm

the demo seems absolutly crappy!
but i'm going to download the demo and try that with my guitar synth!

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:31 pm

Well I have downloaded the Six-String synth and tried it. My thought is that it is not a guitar, it is not a bass, but it is a great synth! Try it yourself...

Ganool · Post by **Ganool** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:42 am

I agree. The acoustic part doesn't sound very real (maybe with a good reverb it would improve) but I really like the electric emulation. There are some really heavy leads in there.

And, if you regard this as a synthesizer it's very impressive indeed. I don't believe this will be a major synth for the Pulsar, such as the Minimax.

Carl.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 8:39 am

Perhaps something simpler...? Let's say, the Celmo's GAM? which is great! Of course, you need to play a little guitar... or you can always ask somebody to play it for you.

I particularly hate Sax, and Guitar machines, they have never sounded natural. It is very difficult for it to happen I think. I think it is posible nevertheless, but when much powerful technology and computers comes up, cos the amount of process needed for such a complex sound it has to be important.

Well, I haven't tryed it myself, so I can't really judge, but Demos are indeed not very good. In general Creamware Demos are always of quite bad quality. I think Demos should be taken really to a higher level.