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Tannoy System 600 or System 800, depending on your $$$...
Most incredible sound ever..dual concentric system...
Be caregull if you plan to buy second hand used monitors. A monitor isn´t like any other stuff that Work/NotWork, and many problems, may not be listened with only a couple hours of hearing them.
Most incredible sound ever..dual concentric system...
Be caregull if you plan to buy second hand used monitors. A monitor isn´t like any other stuff that Work/NotWork, and many problems, may not be listened with only a couple hours of hearing them.
Luis Maria Gonzalez Lentijo
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
I heard the MSP 5, Tannoy reveal (passive), Genelec 1029A, DS 50 side by side. For me the Genelecs sound more precise than the others. The MSP 5 sound a little bit crunchy as i remember, the tannoy not as precise and bigger ( but also very good sounding). All in all for me! the best were the Genelecs because for my ear they sound best in dependence to their size. And you are able to upgrade your system.
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Hi, made same kinda test with Event1 Ps8, Tannoy reveal, Genelecs 1029a (spdif in) and genelec 1029 (analog in).
The Genelecs where most precise with Event1 very very close, but to my own ears,Event1 where less harsh and had more precise bass. Genelec generated ear fatigue quickly for me. And also, i could by 2 pairs of PS8 for the price of only 1029a, and with genelecs i would still need to get a subwoofer. PS8 didn't need it, 8" of bass finely tuned if often better than a 'overpowered subwoofer' that in fact created a 'woof' due to difficulties in positioning it correctly.
I went for PS8, and glad about it.
The Genelecs where most precise with Event1 very very close, but to my own ears,Event1 where less harsh and had more precise bass. Genelec generated ear fatigue quickly for me. And also, i could by 2 pairs of PS8 for the price of only 1029a, and with genelecs i would still need to get a subwoofer. PS8 didn't need it, 8" of bass finely tuned if often better than a 'overpowered subwoofer' that in fact created a 'woof' due to difficulties in positioning it correctly.
I went for PS8, and glad about it.
Genelecs ar not comparable with Tannoy Reveal...(1/2 $$cost, and no profesional line)
You can listen to tannoy System 800, passives but really great sounding...
WIth Genelecs you can upgrade with a subwoofer, but remember that subwoofers are dangerous without a very good acustic treatment of the room...
You can get a bigger monitor, with more bass, and then you won´t need any sub-low.
Try the tannoy System 800. I dont have them, but they are really incredible.
DJATWORK
You can listen to tannoy System 800, passives but really great sounding...
WIth Genelecs you can upgrade with a subwoofer, but remember that subwoofers are dangerous without a very good acustic treatment of the room...
You can get a bigger monitor, with more bass, and then you won´t need any sub-low.
Try the tannoy System 800. I dont have them, but they are really incredible.
DJATWORK
Luis Maria Gonzalez Lentijo
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
those are all very good speaks.i always have to remember how many top studios and producers in my area made so many hits with those damned crappy yamaha ns-10s tho.the main advantage of the ns10 is that every tweeter sounds the same.so maybe they were far from good,but once you learned them you were comfortable anywhere you went.they were cheap too!
all speaks are short of perfect.it's mostly aboout getting at least a decent pair and making the best of them by learning their shortcomings.
what sounds best to one,another is not quite satisfied.
it's hard to lose with most of the pro gear out these days!
all speaks are short of perfect.it's mostly aboout getting at least a decent pair and making the best of them by learning their shortcomings.
what sounds best to one,another is not quite satisfied.
it's hard to lose with most of the pro gear out these days!
I read in a test that the Behringer sound very good but more for HiFi-use because they make everything hear fine. It depends on what you want to have: good sounding speakers or monitors where you are able to hear the bad things in your music.
Btw.: I bought the little Genelecs because I didn´t have enough place for bigger monitors.
Btw.: I bought the little Genelecs because I didn´t have enough place for bigger monitors.
KRK? I can't believe noone here has mentioned these incredible speakers!
KROK, V8's and even the $US400 V4's are superb to mix on and ounce you've tried them, you'll never want anything else.
You can hear incredible detail with these speakers.
I've had my V8's for about 1 1/2 years and find them great although sometimes a bit too revealing for general music listening! I feel like I always need to grab an EQ and fix up the pro CDs I'm listening to as they were probably done on horibble yamaha NS10s...!
The V8's are biamped (they have seperate amps for the tweeters and woofers) and you can connect the balanced outs of your Pulsar Pro/A16 or standard audio connections etc. straight to them. I use a phatboy connected the the midi in of Scope to control my control room level and It works perfectly. So clean.
Before the V8's I had KROKS for 3 years which are also amazing and cheap. No internal amp though. I mixed 9 films and 12 CDs with the KROKS and could not make the mixes better even today because they were so accurate with their reproduction of the frequencies the first time around..
5 bands/engineers I recorded mixed with bought them soon after hearing mine.
I sold them to my friend when I moved overseas and he loves them too..
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
http://www.krksys.com/
sayton
De-Vice'
KROK, V8's and even the $US400 V4's are superb to mix on and ounce you've tried them, you'll never want anything else.
You can hear incredible detail with these speakers.
I've had my V8's for about 1 1/2 years and find them great although sometimes a bit too revealing for general music listening! I feel like I always need to grab an EQ and fix up the pro CDs I'm listening to as they were probably done on horibble yamaha NS10s...!
The V8's are biamped (they have seperate amps for the tweeters and woofers) and you can connect the balanced outs of your Pulsar Pro/A16 or standard audio connections etc. straight to them. I use a phatboy connected the the midi in of Scope to control my control room level and It works perfectly. So clean.
Before the V8's I had KROKS for 3 years which are also amazing and cheap. No internal amp though. I mixed 9 films and 12 CDs with the KROKS and could not make the mixes better even today because they were so accurate with their reproduction of the frequencies the first time around..
5 bands/engineers I recorded mixed with bought them soon after hearing mine.
I sold them to my friend when I moved overseas and he loves them too..
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
http://www.krksys.com/
sayton
De-Vice'
"Big" monitor, does not nesessary means "good sound" monitor...
In the other hand, a big monitor in a "not-big" room, means bass excess.
Low sounds are very difficult to manage without a very good sound treatment, so be carefull with the big monitors.
A close field monitor pair wil adapt to any room/use and will be great for you or anyone.
DJATWORK
In the other hand, a big monitor in a "not-big" room, means bass excess.
Low sounds are very difficult to manage without a very good sound treatment, so be carefull with the big monitors.
A close field monitor pair wil adapt to any room/use and will be great for you or anyone.
DJATWORK
Luis Maria Gonzalez Lentijo
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
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Hello people
Well I know most of you guys have lots of experience, and all this monitor speakers discussion is getting very interesting.., I have a couple of years on this, but with time I've seen that the NS-10's (wich I have) keep showing up on a lot of different studio facilities and/or in home studios all over the world., every body is allways saying that NS-10's does not sound like they want them to sound...on my case (IMHO or course) they are clear enough for me to mix any song so that it will be exactly as I meant on hi-fi systems and on headphones. And they also let me hear a full detailed spectrum even on a professional CD release.
My Ns-10's were adquired brand new.., I think they were the very last ones to be delivered by Yamaha worlwide.
I hope to receive your comments on this.., I know I CAN be wrong or something like that.. but the fact that I still keep seeing them on every pro-studio worldwide makes me ask you guys about it.
cheers
Snoopy
Well I know most of you guys have lots of experience, and all this monitor speakers discussion is getting very interesting.., I have a couple of years on this, but with time I've seen that the NS-10's (wich I have) keep showing up on a lot of different studio facilities and/or in home studios all over the world., every body is allways saying that NS-10's does not sound like they want them to sound...on my case (IMHO or course) they are clear enough for me to mix any song so that it will be exactly as I meant on hi-fi systems and on headphones. And they also let me hear a full detailed spectrum even on a professional CD release.
My Ns-10's were adquired brand new.., I think they were the very last ones to be delivered by Yamaha worlwide.
I hope to receive your comments on this.., I know I CAN be wrong or something like that.. but the fact that I still keep seeing them on every pro-studio worldwide makes me ask you guys about it.
cheers
Snoopy
Yamaha NS10 can´t be absent in any professional studio. The sound quality is appart...
If you buy your 2nd pair of monitors, or you buy the 1st, but in the future you´ll buy a second pair, go for the Yamaha NS10...
If you can only buy one pair of monitors I think that they can be the NS10 but should not be the NS10...
THe NS10 has Particular Sound, not the best sound.
I wan´t the best sound, and if is possible check it with a good thermometer... the NS10...
THe NS10 are a very good parameter, not very good monitors...simple...
DJATWORK
If you buy your 2nd pair of monitors, or you buy the 1st, but in the future you´ll buy a second pair, go for the Yamaha NS10...
If you can only buy one pair of monitors I think that they can be the NS10 but should not be the NS10...
THe NS10 has Particular Sound, not the best sound.
I wan´t the best sound, and if is possible check it with a good thermometer... the NS10...
THe NS10 are a very good parameter, not very good monitors...simple...
DJATWORK
Luis Maria Gonzalez Lentijo
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina
DjatWork! Optimizaciones
Buenos Aires
Argentina