Tiny 2 channel mixer?

[mausmuso]

When updating these devices, I used SpaceF's Mixer3 along side them to match VU levels at various optimal points (e.g. -3, -6, -12db).
I finally adjusted the output levels to match -3db input (from one input channel) at the outputs (Output set to 0db and approximating -3db and reflecting the Mix3 device). BTW, adjusting the output levels to match input levels might be the underlining issue regarding the loss of level when compared to the Mix3. I will check this.
I spent quite some time trying to find the right intensity for the exponential curve for the faders, but the best I could do was optimise the levels at one point (I used -3db as the optimal point). I am aware that they are not accurate as the level is reduced.
I looked at settings for a number of other Scope devices to see how they did it, but adopting their settings did not fix the level issues.
Anyone who can enlighten me as to how to address this issue would be greatly appreciated.
I will go back and see if I can fix the issues highlighted above.
Thanks Bud for the feedback, always appreciated.
maus

[Bud Weiser]

Just a note:
Also when I said "scaling",- the numbers indicating "fader" levels in relation to the meter segments are irritating.

And,- SpaceF´s Mix3S input gain is 0dB (fs ?) by default !
I only set them to -3dB for each of the 3 stereo sources because that´s the way analog mixers were cascaded.
That way, I don´t get distortion at the stereo output.

When I use the/your SmallMix4, I can see (measure) the output level in the HMP analyzer, level meter and in RME Digicheck (´cause XITE-1 ADAT out is running into RME Babyface or Raydat),- and the output level is identical low in both.

In Scope "Control Room" (see mixer tools, page 9 of the manual) there´s a test generator w/ a separate audio (test signal) output.
It might be the ideal signal to calibrate/match levels,- so it´s independent from what I myself feed into SmallMix from Scope synths etc..

I like the SmallMix ´cause it could work as a summing amp like SpaceF´s Mix3S does,- but w/ more features like p.ex. panning, defeat channels etc..

[mausmuso]

Thanks Bud
I hope to get some time on it today
regards
maus

[Bud Weiser]

Thanks Bud
I hope to get some time on it today
regards
maus

Hello Maus !

Don´t hurry and take your time.
It´s a freeware device and unfortunately I cannot help much because I don´t have the SDK and not much knowledge about by nature.
So, have a nice weekend and enjoy !



Bud

[spacef]

I posted a mix 4S (just like the 3S but with 4 channels + presets).
https://www.forums.scopeusers.com/viewt ... 67#p370367

For the curve, on levels (ie, not gain), I use curve 1 and intensity 9, that makes the middle at -12dB. If the curve is 0, the middle should be -6dB (if I remember correctly, I did not check).

For the gain it is more or less the same (I think the best value are curve 1 and intensity 6 or 9) (on the free attenuMixer, input gain is set to 1 & 16, so the middle is 0dB, but the minimal position is -12 dB (it is a gain that only goes from -12 to +12). Not sure it is possible to do the same with - infinite gain (the middle will always have some decimals).

The important thing to decide, is "what value should user reach when the press the "arrow up" key" (that sets the poti or fader to its middle position). For some synth, I remember using values like 9999, or 1.1258977(yes, the decimals work (trials and error to find the exact middle point though).

[Bud Weiser]

Thank you, SpaceF !



Bud