Updated Small Mixer Family (Versions 3)

[mausmuso]

Hi There,
Updated (version 3) Small Mixer family.
Updates:
- Removed Drawers (Shublades) Open Drawers were not always displaying properly - now all controls are on the front panel,
- Optimised Range Text fields to better approximate actual dB levels, and
- Some minor optimisation of the panel.
Please note:
- Setting two separate Midi CC's to fader stereo pairs breaks the stereo linking and it appears that the only way to recover is by reloading the project or by deleting the mixer and re-inserting another instance in the project. Setting a MIdi CC to one fader (left or right) works as expected and is the recommended way to cc control linked stereo pairs.

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A big thank you to Bud Weiser for assisting me with the testing of these mixers.
regards
maus

[Bud Weiser]

Thank you, Maus. I´ve found and downloaded.
No time for testing today, but over the weekend.

Is "phase lock" testing possible without using SDK ?
If yes,- how ?

[mausmuso]

Hey Bud,
I am not sure about phase locking.
You have peaked my interest though and I might look into phasing to see what can be done.
I personally have never had an issue.
A lot of my mixing and mastering is now done in Cubase/Wavelab so I can use Izotope, Sonible and NuGen tools.
I do bring tracks out to Scope to use scope Fxs/Synths/etc.
These tracks are then fed back to audio track s in Cubase and tweaked to eliminate recording delays.
I do use Pi in Cubase to phase align tracks like kicks and bass, and I check mixes in mono to make sure nothing disappears due to phasing, but currently that's about it.
Good luck with the new mixers.
regards
maus

[yayajohn]

Awesome! Thanks maus.

[guppy]

Thank you mausmuso !

[Rafe]

Thanks for the excellent devices

[mausmuso]

Is "phase lock" testing possible without using SDK ?
If yes,- how ?

Bud, I am sure it is possible to check phase in both scope and scope sdk.
I am no expert on phase measurement, but I think you can do it using similar setup to that shown below.
I just fed the same signal to all inputs and then look at the output for any distortion.
The Oscilloscope (available in Scope) and the same output signal fed to a Cubase track with plugin 'MOscilloscope' (free plugin from MelbaProduction) appears to me to have no visible phasing issues as a result of summing all the inputs associated with the Small Mix 16.
Happy to be corrected if my assumptions are incorrect.
regards
maus

[valis]

Easier than that, you want a 1 cycle click or ramp that starts at 100 and goes to 0, then resets in 1 sample, etc. Record the output to see the offsets, and toggle channels to see where they misalign. it only matters where you will have parallel processing (like parallel compression, etc) or where you mix multiple mics open to the same source, and of course stereo pairs are the most critical. Send effects (100% wet return) and mixing discrete sources is much less of a concern, though when layering drums you need to again be careful (easiest in the DAW in this era).

Also, Scope projects can load differently if devices aren't locked to specific dsps. This is where the phase discontinuities tend to come from to begin with, and they can load differently on subsequent loads, though it's mostly predictable if you don't make major changes once a project has been loaded a *second time*. This is because the project tends to load in the same order on reload (once built). As a dev, locking things that should fit on a single dsp into a single block to ensure they are phase accurate was the main task. Note it's been over a decade since I was in SDK and I'm not the SDK master here, so forgive my poor choice of term(s) if that happens to be the case.

[mausmuso]

Small Mixers have been updated.
See amended first post
maus

[guppy]

Nice job, thank you Maus !

[Bud Weiser]

Hello Maus !

Thx for the updates,- I´ll check ´em out as soon as I can.
And yes,- I´d be very interested in trying the switchers too !!!

best



Bud

[mausmuso]

Small Mixer family updated to v3 versions.
regards
maus

[Bud Weiser]

Hi There,
Updated (version 3) Small Mixer family.
Updates:
- Removed Drawers (Shublades) Open Drawers were not always displaying properly - now all controls are on the front panel,
- Optimised Range Text fields to better approximate actual dB levels, and
- Some minor optimisation of the panel.
Please note:
- Setting two separate Midi CC's to fader stereo pairs breaks the stereo linking and it appears that the only way to recover is by reloading the project or by deleting the mixer and re-inserting another instance in the project. Setting a MIdi CC to one fader (left or right) works as expected and is the recommended way to cc control linked stereo pairs.

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A big thank you to Bud Weiser for assisting me with the testing of these mixers.
regards
maus

Thank you very much for the updates Maus !!!
I´ll try tonite.



Bud