Xite setup - same computer as ScopePCI cards or not?

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Xite setup - same computer as ScopePCI cards or not?

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Hello

I promise I have looked for the answer to this before starting a new topic!

I am lucky enough to have an Xite-1 on the way from the SonicCore sale.

My current system:
3 x Pulsar Cards
MSI Gamimg 3 Z97 motherboard
Intel i7-4790K 4GHz
32GB RAM
Win7 Pro 64bit
SSD system drive
Additional large drives for audio file storage and programme extras etc.
DAW - SAWStudio (unusual but fab software with a loyal customer base)

This system works great and is completely stable, but although the Pulsar cards seem to be built like tanks, at 20+ years old they can't last forever. And the extra dsp power wil be fun.

So my question - how should I best upgrade. Can I add the Xite to the existing setup and switch from the existing PCI Card Scope environment to the new one? Should I disable the Scope PCI cards? Or should I bite the bullet and get a new PC for the Xite? Another Z97 with the 4790 processor seems like a good choice still judging but other threads. These are available at a decent price I suspect. Maybe there is a better option seeing as I wouldn't need the three PCI slots.

Thanks in advance, I so appreciate this forum having been here for, well probably close to 20 years by now. Happy New Year to you all.

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Re: Xite setup - same computer as ScopePCI cards or not?

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you can install the XITE on the same system.
the only conflict with the PCI cards would be opening a project made on PCI cards with the XITE. if the PCI files are in place, the project will load from the PCI files, which won't work correctly.

you could use a newer system with the XITE, if you wished.
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Gary, is it possible to run SCOPE PCI and SCOPE XITE in parallel on the same computer and connect the two via ASIO, ADAT or Zlink?

Congrats on getting an XITE-1, Jonathan! I for one recently got SAWStudio! :)
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Thanks Gary

Hi sunmachine - SAWStudio has a bit of a steep learning curve I suppose but it is well worth it IMO. I've used Bob Lentini's products vrtually since he started releasing them and I wouldn't want to change.

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sunmachine wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:28 am Gary, is it possible to run SCOPE PCI and SCOPE XITE in parallel on the same computer and connect the two via ASIO, ADAT or Zlink?
yes, it's possible.
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Sweet! Good to know. :)
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Jonathan T wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:51 am Hi sunmachine - SAWStudio has a bit of a steep learning curve I suppose but it is well worth it IMO. I've used Bob Lentini's products vrtually since he started releasing them and I wouldn't want to change.
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Does scope PCI & XITE really work in parallel - simultaneously on the same pc ?
Or is it just possible to have them installed in parallel on the same pc, but not running simultaneously ?

(I can confirm the later, but the first one sounds interesting to me)
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sure it's possible. it's probably an unecessary complication, but it can be done.
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One more question - the old chestnut Win10 64 or Win7 64?

With my Pulsar card setup I kept getting crashes to blue screen (Scope.sys issue) when trying the Asio drivers with my DAW, so I went back to Win7. Does this same issue exist with an Xite-1 I wonder?

I have Win7 and Win10 on separate C drives so it is easy for me to try both and see I guess.

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what sequencer?

the problem is likely to be the same.
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SAWStudio DAW

I'll stick to Win7, it works fine.

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Jonathan T wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:54 am One more question - the old chestnut Win10 64 or Win7 64?

With my Pulsar card setup I kept getting crashes to blue screen (Scope.sys issue) when trying the Asio drivers with my DAW, so I went back to Win7. Does this same issue exist with an Xite-1 I wonder?
I tried to use the ASIO I/O in SAWStudio64 and got the BSOD as well (Win10 64-bit, SCOPE 7, XITE-1). No problem with SAWStudio 32-bit so far.
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Thanks sunmachine

I've got some VSTs that like 64bit, I know I could use JBridge or something but I keep things simple if I can. I use JBridge for old 32bit only apps in a 64bit environment and it wirks great for that.

I'll stick to Win7 until a SonicCore update comes along.

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Did you already report the issue directy to Sonic Core? They should be able to reproduce it with the SAWStudio64 demo.
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No I haven't

I could do I guess
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the Sawstudio problem is known.
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Jonathan T wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:43 am I've got some VSTs that like 64bit, I know I could use JBridge or something but I keep things simple if I can. I use JBridge for old 32bit only apps in a 64bit environment and it wirks great for that.

I'll stick to Win7 until a SonicCore update comes along.
I also run Scope on Win7/32 together with SAWStudio.
All 64bit plugins (there are some nice ones indeed) are on MacMini M1 connected via a Motu 828 MK2 USB (Adat).
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Jonathan T wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:37 am Can I add the Xite to the existing setup and switch from the existing PCI Card Scope environment to the new one?
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Thanks Lunaman

The separate computer for 64 bit plugins as Astroman describes is an interesting approach as well. I'm happy with Win7 64 for now though.

Jonathan
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