Peavey StudioMix with Pulsar

digilogue · Post by **digilogue** » Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:53 pm

Hi,

I have made some modules to control the SFP Mixers and Synth with the StudioMix. There are different modules to control 16 or 24 channel mixers or synth. They all translate the NRPNs of the StudioMix to CC for Pulsar.

Thomann ( http://www.thomann.de ) is currently blowing them out for 99 Euro, so it's a very cheap solution with 9 motorized faders and 18 endless rotary encoders.

I just have to write an installation guide and build some controller presets, then I will upload this to PlanetZ.

Markus

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Chrisznix · Post by **Chrisznix** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 4:03 am

Um...what´s wrong with it? It is that cheap that i´m asking myself if this is a misprint!?
You have it already? Tell us about it please! Where´s the ordering form?

Thanks for the info!

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 4:28 am

Just had a look around and the original retail price was about €1250, so this really is an amazing deal if it's not a mistake.

Cheers,
Will

janow · Post by **janow** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 5:51 am

Hey, this is a nice one!

I will try them!

I read the test in Keyboards 6/99 and they said that it will only work mit cakewalk.
But how about Cubase 5.1/32 or SX.
Did someone have a clue?

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Ferry · Post by **Ferry** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:44 am

Hi digilogue (Markus),

Thanks for this great tip. I just ordered mine!

Looking forward to your documentation and modules!

Ferry

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jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:46 am

"Most of the control surfaces designed for computer mix use have at least attempted to be generic – that is, able to work with any program that understands MIDI commands. By contrast, StudioMix was custom-designed for Cakewalk Professional 8 and Pro Audio 8: its MIDI messages use a combination of System-Exclusive and Non-Registered Parameter Number (NRPN) control data that is understood only by the Cakewalk software"

Looks like it does'nt work.
That's a shame.
Could have been the steal of the century.

digilogue · Post by **digilogue** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:50 am

Hi,

I found this hotdeal, because some people discussed on the germany keyboards ( http://www.keyboards.de ) forum how to use it with Cubase / Logic. They tried to map the controlles with Locigs environment and a Cubase user has build a tranlator using MIDI OX and both solutions seem to work, but I have not tried them.

Since I wanted to buy a midi controller anyway I have ordered two StudioMix. It still comes with a full Cakewalk Pro Audio 8.0, but I have not installed that yet.

My translation modules output MIDI Continuous Controllers and you can route this output to any MIDI dest in the SFP Environment, so you can use it to control external synth or any sequencer.

For 99 Euro it's way cheaper than any other solution with endless rotary encoders / motorized faders. It doesn't have the same quality as a Logic-Control ( f.e. only 60mm Fader, not touch sensitive ), but for the price there is nothing to complain. The main drawback is that you have no LEDs or display on the unit.

Here is the link to the unit at thomann:
http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw2_ ... 54274.html

Markus

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Ferry · Post by **Ferry** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:12 am

I found an nice site about implementing a StudioMix device in cubase:

http://www.hullin.net/studiomix.html

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:54 am

Wow man that looks like a sweet deal but I'm wondering if that really would work with cubase.

If someone has a working setup with those device combined with cubase I'd really like a PM or a reply here as to how to get it working and if there are any problems with such a setup

Thx

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:13 am

http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw7_ ... 54274.html

Ferry · Post by **Ferry** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 1:10 pm

Hi Markus (digilogue),

Can you tell me more about your pulsar module that you have developed that can convert the StudioMix NRPNs into normal Continuous Controller signals?

Can you share it with us on this board?

Thanks for your work man!

Ferry

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preston · Post by **preston** » Thu Jun 20, 2002 2:55 am

Thanks for the tip I just ordered mine, what a great price!! I was going to order the sac 2k , at 1600 euro it was a bit pricey, I'll get back with the "learning curve" and results.

Pres

Valium · Post by **Valium** » Thu Jun 20, 2002 12:33 pm

Thx for the tip, I just ordered two of those and they should be arriving within 48 hours ...

I'll let ya know how it went ...

Greetz

digilogue · Post by **digilogue** » Thu Jun 20, 2002 2:54 pm

Hi,

I've just uploaded the converter module for the StudioMixto the devices area. I've finished two versions to control 16 or 24 mixer channels. Now I will build a module to control some synth and a module to use the transport buttons, stay tuned.

Markus

Chrisznix · Post by **Chrisznix** » Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:18 am

Hi Markus!

Thanks again for your work! When i´ve got mine, i will try to do the same thing for Logic Audio - i think it should be possible, Logic has very powerful transformer modules...
Chris

Ferry · Post by **Ferry** » Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:28 am

Chris,

Keep me informed on the progress of your work to implement it in Logic. Maby I can help you a little...

Although I have to wait a day or two to get my StudioMix.

Ferry

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drasticEq · Post by **drasticEq** » Fri Jun 21, 2002 1:33 pm

I have written a Windows program that maps the NRPN output of the StudioMix to CC messages. It supports multiple mappings, provides visual feedback on the values of the buttons and knobs, and fixes a problem that many StudioMixes have of sending out spurious MIDI data.

It is yours for the asking; just e-mail me and I'll send it to you.

(that's wlegro@earthlink.net)

preston · Post by **preston** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 12:20 pm

wow I just got my studiomix It is cool. Lots of in's and out's. anyone put together any mod's yet? I'm getting ready to pull my hair out, help before it's all gone.

Pres

stefanop · Post by **stefanop** » Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:08 pm

Hey mate
I'm a newbie of that forum and I've just purchased a StudioMix to use with 2 LUNAII cards.
Could you please help me to obtain your converting software?
I'd be really grateful. Thx in advance for your help: I really appreciated your hard worx.

borg · Post by **borg** » Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:03 am

hi guys,

sorry to butt in, but it's been busy times for me... and i don't understand a thing 'bout this midi ox and other windows mumbojumbo.
my question: how does this all relate to macintosh???
this machine looks pretty cool for the price.