Profit, Minimax audio issue
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				diegomaggi
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Profit, Minimax audio issue
!Hola Everyone!
probably someone of you super-scope-guys can help me:
With some synths (Profit5, Minimax) when I save a project and then re-opne it, I can't hear
anything (but the MIDI incoming messages are ok, using the MIDI display).
Then I delete the synth, open another one (Inferno, Vector) and everything is ok.
But If I try to reopen Profit5 or Minimax, the do not play.
Midichannel, audio routing, everyhting is ok. Routing directly to an out (digital or analog),
or thru a mixer, the big one, the small one, the valve one. nothing.
Changing the poliphony: nothing.
This issue is with: Profit5, Minimax, Lightwave, Six String
Everything seems to be ok with: Inferno, miniscope(s), Zarg syhnths, Odissey, Bluesynth, B2003
Any idea?
Tnx in advance!
D.
			
			
									
						
							probably someone of you super-scope-guys can help me:
With some synths (Profit5, Minimax) when I save a project and then re-opne it, I can't hear
anything (but the MIDI incoming messages are ok, using the MIDI display).
Then I delete the synth, open another one (Inferno, Vector) and everything is ok.
But If I try to reopen Profit5 or Minimax, the do not play.
Midichannel, audio routing, everyhting is ok. Routing directly to an out (digital or analog),
or thru a mixer, the big one, the small one, the valve one. nothing.
Changing the poliphony: nothing.
This issue is with: Profit5, Minimax, Lightwave, Six String
Everything seems to be ok with: Inferno, miniscope(s), Zarg syhnths, Odissey, Bluesynth, B2003
Any idea?
Tnx in advance!
D.
i7 3.40 GHz (1150 Socket), Asus Z87-C, 32 GB RAM (1600 MHz), 
Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
Apollo FW & Motu Fastlane
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				Yogimeister
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
Did you try to set the MIDI channel from within the synth (and not the floating window?)
			
			
									
						
										
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				diegomaggi
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
Yes I did. Nothing.
			
			
									
						
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
Can you assign these manually to the dsp's and check if you get the same behaviour?
			
			
									
						
										
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				diegomaggi
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
@fra77:
I know how to do it with the STM2448, but how can I assign a synth to a particoular dsp(s)?
Thank you agai!
D.
			
			
									
						
							I know how to do it with the STM2448, but how can I assign a synth to a particoular dsp(s)?
Thank you agai!
D.
i7 3.40 GHz (1150 Socket), Asus Z87-C, 32 GB RAM (1600 MHz), 
Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
Apollo FW & Motu Fastlane
Motu DP9.04, Ableton 9.1
PIII 933, 512 MB RAM (133 MHZ), WinXP SP3, 2xPulsaII+1 Luna
			
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				jksuperstar
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
You can also try changing sample rate to something else, then back to your original.  This resets all the DSPs.
			
			
									
						
										
						Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
right click the device -> assign to dsp Y
			
			
									
						
										
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				diegomaggi
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
@jksuperstar: nothing again 
 also restarting the PC...
@fra77: on an old Creamware 15+15 DSP. I'm not an'X-tie1 owner. Right-clicking it only appears an "hide" window.
			
			
									
						
							@fra77: on an old Creamware 15+15 DSP. I'm not an'X-tie1 owner. Right-clicking it only appears an "hide" window.
i7 3.40 GHz (1150 Socket), Asus Z87-C, 32 GB RAM (1600 MHz), 
Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
Apollo FW & Motu Fastlane
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PIII 933, 512 MB RAM (133 MHZ), WinXP SP3, 2xPulsaII+1 Luna
			
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
Then i can't think something. With software 5.1 you can assign the devices on specific dsps, but the old dsps can't handle much..
			
			
									
						
										
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				diegomaggi
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
I'm using 5.1, with 36 DSPs, and it's only 45% of the whole DSP power, I don't think it is a problem of DSP power...
Something wrong with .dll, .bin, .dev or other .stuff in the labyrinthic Scope-folder?
			
			
									
						
							Something wrong with .dll, .bin, .dev or other .stuff in the labyrinthic Scope-folder?
i7 3.40 GHz (1150 Socket), Asus Z87-C, 32 GB RAM (1600 MHz), 
Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
Apollo FW & Motu Fastlane
Motu DP9.04, Ableton 9.1
PIII 933, 512 MB RAM (133 MHZ), WinXP SP3, 2xPulsaII+1 Luna
			
						Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
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Motu DP9.04, Ableton 9.1
PIII 933, 512 MB RAM (133 MHZ), WinXP SP3, 2xPulsaII+1 Luna
Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
I'm only guessing here. It's not a problem of dsp amount but of the communication. Sometimes i doesn't reloads well because a device is spanned across different dsps and on reloading it doesn't do it well. I doubt it's a problem of some other file. 
You can try lower the voices to 1 before saving and check the behaviour. Then raise the voices as you like. Just a workaround.
			
			
									
						
										
						You can try lower the voices to 1 before saving and check the behaviour. Then raise the voices as you like. Just a workaround.
Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
When weird things like that happen to me, i reinstall the Scope software and it usually fixes the problem.  Just a suggestion, and make sure you back up just in case.
			
			
									
						
										
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				diegomaggi
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
I've tried to lower to 0, save the project and then reopen and increment. Nothing.
Re-install solve the problem for the very first time. Then it represents again.
:SSS
			
			
									
						
							Re-install solve the problem for the very first time. Then it represents again.
:SSS
i7 3.40 GHz (1150 Socket), Asus Z87-C, 32 GB RAM (1600 MHz), 
Windows10, 3xScope 15 DSP (Z link & Plus) Scope 5.1
Apollo FW & Motu Fastlane
Motu DP9.04, Ableton 9.1
PIII 933, 512 MB RAM (133 MHZ), WinXP SP3, 2xPulsaII+1 Luna
			
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Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
Also try changing presets. That fixed a mute Minimax for me.
			
			
									
						
										
						Re: Profit, Minimax audio issue
recreate the project? Does it loads "broken" on every situation?