its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio

[ristof]

as to asio 2.2, if there is currently no 64bit version, then...
there WILL be a 64 bit version as long as S/C remains in business, however.

Why don't you ask the proprietors yourself instead of getting on here and telling people what you don't know about, all the while trying to put dirt on so-called newbies.

[garyb]

And what do you think they'll put into some powercore as an asio driver, if they ever give a try to an "all included" system?

As I said, tc now appear to be listening and more importantly liaising with customers, something obviously SC have always done but the point is for me at least that for all intents and purposes SC people may as well be on another planet.

Do you get it yet hint *Z*.

yes, you are being willfully ignorant. is this a race to see who "appears" to be most friendly, or do you want to know about a great product? if Scope isn't right for you, then by all means, don't buy it!

[Fluxpod]

[garyb]

btw ristof-i NEVER threw dirt on a noob. YOU threw dirt on me. i patiently tried to answer your questions about the different cards, and never ONCE tried to make money off of you.

[ristof]

yes, you are being willfully ignorant. is this a race to see who "appears" to be most friendly, or do you want to know about a great product? if Scope isn't right for you, then by all means, don't buy it!

Personally I think at the end of the day, people like you are bad for SC and are more a part of the problem rather than any solution going forward, as the horizon for what can be achieved is skewed towards a particular way of thinking but maybe again you could blame SC and call it yet another failure for allowing such monsters as yourself to grow and take over the userbase with your ill-conceived notions of how things should be done and used.

[garyb]

whatever. either you misunderstand me, or you just want to have a fight, but personally, i don't care anymore. feel free to act a fool....in any case, i'm over it.

[siriusbliss]

yes, you are being willfully ignorant. is this a race to see who "appears" to be most friendly, or do you want to know about a great product? if Scope isn't right for you, then by all means, don't buy it!

Personally I think at the end of the day, people like you are bad for SC and are more a part of the problem rather than any solution going forward, as the horizon for what can be achieved is skewed towards a particular way of thinking but maybe again you could blame SC and call it yet another failure for allowing such monsters as yourself to grow and take over the userbase with your ill-conceived notions of how things should be done and used.

What's funny is that you are quick to attack and conjecture without consideration of what recommendations have been offered.

Therefore, you are only further damaging your 'position' on the matter. You're quick to compare apples to oranges (marketing of other DSP vendors), but still haven't acted on any of the suggestions.

You are caught in your own loop here, and are really just ripping yourself off.

You can't get help here (or anywhere) by just calling people monsters.

Greg

[ristof]

Ok so now that is out of the way....

From where I sit (manufacturers aside) I am a sound designer, so firstly I need either samples and/or synthesis algorithms, how the sounds are reproduced in the end is not of concern in the first instance.

Secondly, I need a system that can run my DAW applications, while transparently allowing me to use both native and DSP based instruments and effects, whether from SC or not.

So my questions naturally will be from the point of view of the former, so if anyone can help it would be appreciated, otherwise don't sit there and say what is better when I've got full ASIO 2.2 supporting hardware and don't need native mode in order to continue my work which is music composition and NOT recording (yet).

[siriusbliss]

Ok so now that is out of the way....

From where I sit (manufacturers aside) I am a sound designer, so firstly I need either samples and/or synthesis algorithms, how the sounds are reproduced in the end is not of concern in the first instance.

Secondly, I need a system that can run my DAW applications, while transparently allowing me to use both native and DSP based instruments and effects, whether from SC or not.

So my questions naturally will be from the point of view of the former, so if anyone can help it would be appreciated, otherwise don't sit there and say what is better when I've got full ASIO 2.2 supporting hardware and don't need native mode in order to continue my work which is music composition and NOT recording (yet).

OK, so you have the option of using XTC/VSTim mode in your host/DAW for loading Scope effects, etc. - or you can route out of your host to the 'external' effects, synths, etc. in Scope. The routing flexibility is the power of Scope (distinct from what UAD and the others offer as just plugins).

Scope handles samples as well as synthesis via it's Modular (as one example).

You can build your whole project and still mix/master via Scope as well.

So, it's up to you to what degree you want to use 'native' applications in your DAW (with your ASIO 2.2) and/or integrate Scope DSP plugs/mixer/synths/routing, etc. into your setup.

There ARE people here doing everything from sound design to full tracking/mixdown/mastering exclusively in Scope.

Greg

[cortone]

ristof,



I think you forgot to log in as mailheist somewhere along the way, you're really missing your wingman, you know, your support guy. There's really only a couple of people here who don't understand what Garyb brings to this community, and you sound an awful lot like

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!

STARDUST?!??!?!!

Nah, couldn't be, he wouldn't do that since he got his XITE...

Cheers,
Cory

[garyb]

asio2 IS supported. 64bit operation is NOT supported until the 64bit version. clear?

[ristof]

Ok, I'll tell you something.

Scope supports ASIO 2.2.

Happy?

I am but does it support VST 2.4 can anyone tell me that?

Also, just because something supports ASIO 2.2 doesn't mean it needs to be 64 bit.

Ok now SC I am starting to feel happy, just please will you send a representative to my country so they can be friends again

[ARCADIOS]

astroman, i agree about crap sound of productions nowdays.
i would be glad if i could achieve the minimum of a good 1970s disco analog sound.
64bit of pcs is not going to improve immagination.

to be honest i am already getting tired of this nonstop race for getting the most recent software.

ableton is the paradise of looping...... but sometimes i wish it was 15 years back when i used to record on a tape a part that i liked on a vynil..... and by using pause and rec..and pause ...and rec... on the same exactly position and then............ finaly i had a continious loop.



trilian with another hungry vst(ivory) together..........works only if we bypass the 32bit limit.
i would prefer real bass and real piano of course
BUT......
i think it is a matter of different points of view.
and...... the discussion never ends i guess....

[nightscope]

to be honest i am already getting tired of this nonstop race for getting the most recent software.

Well , excuse me, ARC. But weren't you were the one who started this whole trainwreck thread off. You know, the "its time for scope 64bit and multi-asio" thread.

Troublemaker!!

Count me in. I got enough flamin' software to start a cyber war. What I want is a CATHEDRAL!! Plus one mad English bird whose totally lost the plot!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oppDnSm3 ... re=related

Tom's point about developer's having to constantly update systems to accomodate new OS version is a very good one. In the time that SC have taken to rejig for 64 bit, Vista/7, Mac stuff and wotnot we could have had MCU or something neat like that in Scope. Something real useful.

ns

[astroman]

.... but sometimes i wish it was 15 years back when i used to record on a tape a part that i liked on a vynil..... and by using pause and rec..and pause ...

trilian with another hungry vst(ivory) together..........works only if we bypass the 32bit limit.
i would prefer real bass and real piano of course
BUT...

good things never end, I posted the auction of the 58 Fender P-Bass not so unintentionally...
did you notice the neck ? the backside of the headstock - an exceptional beautiful maple
below is the iTunes version, followed by the original vinyl from Carly Simon's 'You're so Vain'... not you, Arcadios

it's serious slap on the ears if you hear it right one after the other. no processing applied to the vinyl at all

cheers, Tom

[wayne]

That's a wicked bass alright Tom

[lagoausente]

I 'd like to have a 64bit-scope-driver asap just because of some toys I currently use (such as omnisphere, bfd2, trillian, rmx, kontakt, amplitube ...) and I like 'em - so I simply need to adress more ram. that's my request.
Due to system limitations I've used vst system link, fxteleport in the past... but imo it makes things more complicated and isn't an alternative for me anymore.
if someone doesn't "need" omnisphere & co - that's OK for me. most of the time I use Scope only as my IN/OUT midi/audio-interface (and - what a shame - XTC mode). I rarely use the scope synths ... but that's me ... each to his own ...
just my 2c
tom

Even Spectrasonics/Omnisphere won't be releasing 64-bit compatibility until next month (I saw it at NAMM), and there are some reports that people are having problems with Kontakt in 64-bit mode.

These things take time. 64-bit will come 'soon'.

Greg

That´s no posible, people can´t live without that working? That´s why they have no making good music for the last 20 years!!!

[lagoausente]

Where are you located?

Thank you.

My country is not of concern right now, but what is of concern I believe is that the company that *was* servicing SC customers was put in an extremely difficult position by not being able to access product spares.

This is unacceptable to me as a customer and makes the product inaccessible, not to mention shockingly high prices which I attribute to a bad marketing strategy which at the end of the day hurts everyone, however there is room to change, look at tc electronic, now they are engaging customers on their online forum and actually informing of their plans (not to say SC don't) which is a paradigm shift in the way the company works.

In Sonic Cores' case, they need to assign more representatives to more countries in order to make their product more accessible to the masses and not just those who are endeared to the platform.

I think your anger have more relation with the Bilderberg group than with SC. "Try before you buy" is not posible in hardware.

[dawman]

You know I've been watching this forum for a long time and anytime anyone hints at using the gear solely in XTC mode they are immediately informed as to the contrary.
This is an open forum, people should not have to be brow beaten into a particular way of thinking, that one way is "better" than another.
The evidence is clear that garyb whoever he is has vested interest regardless of how much he helps people which I'm sure he does just like the dude on studionu

Evidence?? ..................Ladies & Gentlemen,.............Inspector Cluoseau.

Well since you have been here in lurk mode for such a long time why even bother with all of the wasted energy..?
I don't think you'd like the XITE-1 anyways.
VST's sound much better and RME cards have much better support and sound quality.
I bought mine because I perform better when I know that there's no support whatsoever.
Fear is an excellent motivation.

" When he reached the New World, Cortes burned his ships. As a result his crew was well motivated. " Sean Connery as Marko Ramius.........The Hunt For Red October....MGM 1999.

Marko%20Ramius.jpg

[astroman]

Ristof ...Be assured there are more Zs like you that do not care more for a quick discount and a goofy self display than for a good workflow, an elaborated device and a sustainable platform evolution.

The real contributors are not the loudmouths patronizing you here but the almost silent listeners and dedicated SDK developers.

Good to see though that once in a while someone is speaking up and puts some straight thoughts.
This has been the case on Z for a long time...

to be honest there's just too much evidence for a fake personality
he dropped in here asking a question about hardware versions... ok, that happens from time to time...
but while Gary is explaining, he's commenting with almost more knowledge...
simultaneously he starts another thread to blame GaryB for some circumstances
he must have attended silently for a long time to know all this, so what are the questions for ?
rhethoric stuff - it stinks... imho

cheers, Tom