Stable As The Sunrise

[dawman]

I did my my first smoky room gig w/ 100% hands free stability.
I usually do the big rooms but I am playing the local Rebel Flag Hell's Angels Club.
I haven't been to a gig like this for years.
The music is low pressure, improv on the fly, just fun music.
While there are several little buggy things still in the software they won't keep anybody from using the cards or racked DSP's.
Can't do my whole IEM, Synth, live mixing and recording of the band yet, I can still have loads of fun w/ the B2003 and sample apps.
STW effects are just smoking too.
I made another project so I could use my Rotary cabinet tonight.
I expect by this Winter I will have Solaris and XITE-1 doing exactly what I wanted and 100% stable.
Until then I can experiment with 64bit, and have my little bugs fixed every week.
I am happy to say I am already getting money back on my investment.
Even though it's only 75 bucks a night !!! Thank God for the free Jager.
Oh the new rack does have a better sound, I can only assume it's from the internal DSP code, and the hot XLR/TRS cables.
I take an analog stereo out and use the A16U to bring in the external analog SE-1 via ADAT.
My Barbetta's sound awesome.
Since this isn't a Casino I can take some shots of fine trim and the band, so tonight I shall be festive. There is an all girl fake dancy band there tonight that plays alternate sets.

Thanks SC for a smokin' rack of SHARC's.............

[netguyjoel]

THAT"S GREAT! Rock solid & road worthy. Go easy on the Jaeger brotha' J

On your old rig, were you running unbalanced into a rack mount mixer...or using DIs

[dawman]

I was using A16U's analog out to FOH, sometimes to a Crest XRM, sometimes to a PL2404 analog rack mixer.
But with the XITE-1 I go XLR to XLR and it is very noticable.
Reminded of the the difference of sound from the B2003 ASB compared to the B2003 in the box ( ITB ).
It got's serious quality though. I stand in between the 2 x Barbettas and at the volume I am playing, loud actually,I don't even need the sub.
My SE-1 coming back out of the XITE-1 is where I really noticed the most difference.
It was so FAT and juicy compared to VST and even DSP.
I can never see getting rid of a 3 Oscillator, voice card designed synth.
I like VA's like the Andromeda, Virus, etc. But my SE-1's with Bowens Solaris will have no equal.
I am going to route the hardware Solaris back into XITE-1 and see what's up too.
I can use the outputs simultaneously and my cabinets are multiple I/O also, so 2 digital sends into the XITE-1 and 2 analog direct into the cabinets..........Fierceness 4 Sho'.

[netguyjoel]

Well if the XLRs are goin to the Barbettas...how are you routing to the snake on stage to FOH? Line output from the cabs?

[dawman]

Haven't done it yet and need the key for my SpaceF MB4-II but here's what it would look like using the old MB4 mixer.

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[netguyjoel]

What are you piping into the mixer w/ your synths using the ASIO 32 Source 64

[dawman]

Bidule hosting PianoTeq 3.0, Gigastudio & Kontakt. Samplers, no VST synths.
The ADAT A Source module under QWave is the external SE-1 analog synth.
Tape Delays and effects are stacked and muted in the MB4 via MIDI CC's and switched on/off on the KS88's.
Often at the end of a solo using the SE-1 I can hit a button to carry on the lick while I immediately switch zones/MIDI channels, for another part.

[netguyjoel]

A HA! Samplers, and Jimmy's beloved stereo aux sends (BTW great routing..killer flexability & control)

Back in the day, Mackie 16 channel mixer for Rack Sampler w/ syquest hd, R8m, stereo comp & EQ, SPX900, a few mics, drum pads, one stereo mix to FOH, and one to my monitor rig. Just sounds weak now

[dawman]

I have really made the STW Reverbs sound even more like a hardware unit by using the double stacked EQ's.
When I started using the PCM91's I noticed that wrap around sound was not as prevalent as in the PCM70. This was what Lexicon users really loved the most, as the reverb sound itself wasn't really a true reproduction of space but a great lush warm effect.
With reverb emulations and even the cheaper hardware units it seems as though your sound is playing into a space.
With the STW reverbs, and an EQ in in the second slot of the AUX, I am getting that old wrap around Lexicon sound.
It just makes the instrument " the space ", instead of an instrument sound like it's being played into the space.
This can be done in the routing windowplacing the effects in serial, or stacking them in a channel probably too.
But the STW's arranged with a really accurate EQ like one from DAS is beautiful.
Time to pack up and go take this to the biker bar....
BTW, the STW CHorus/Delay is awesome, but for a really awesome Flanger effect try the Flu_Liq.

http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=24182

http://forums.planetz.com/download/file.php?id=2969

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[netguyjoel]

double stacked EQs...2 parametric per channel...what EQ are you double stacking.
I find EQ & comp in my realm..drums...is what makes the difference.
..that's diabolical!

[Neutron]

whats that thing with "double knobs" and how do you control them? i would use something like that for fake EMS synthi "vernier" knobs on unimatrix 0

[dawman]

It's the DAS A550 EQ.
I hated this thing at first, but the frequency selection and colorless sound are a treat to use.
It's a perfect tool for I use it for above.
They have such useful EQ's. Some add tone and color, which is desirable for certain chores, but for a really transparent EQ the A550 is my fave.

Oh and BTW the presets for the STW's are great.
The one called Saxy Hangar is amazing.
This EQ can actually make up the lack of frequency in any effect, not just the reverbs.
For example Flangers always take away certain Frequencies and the A550 just puts 'em right back where they belong.
I know this is abnormal and not even necessary in hardware enviroments, but inside my box I use whatever I need to get the sounds I want.

[Neutron]

how you you actually use the double knobs though? they are in the same place , im curious to know how scope decides which one you are turning?

[dawman]

You click on the tips of 'em.
They are kind of sticky, but mapping 2 x MIDI CC's to them works well.
I have a template I use to program them, it uses 8 knobs on my KS88 for the four sections.
It's a really great way to get the exact sound you want.

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[husker]

I like VA's like the Andromeda, Virus, etc. But my SE-1's with Bowens Solaris will have no equal.

Jimmy, you've got to stop calling my Andro a VA - if that's a VA then so is your SE-1

[hifiboom]

[dawman]

Sorry 'Bout That Brotha' Man Husker,

Here's a pair of FAT Bastards.
The newest version of Prowave BETA 2.0 w/ the analog sounding polyglide feastures of Solaris, and the SE-1 picking up the low end.

This is my new project for rehearsals next week. I worked with the FOH years ago at the Hilton and since we have a 64 channel Trident console he told me to send him 30 direct outs. I am dying to hear a recording from the console like this.
I usually use AUX mixing and send a few stems, but this is going to be fun.
It's a small project for the XITE-1 actually but I have full polyphony on the synths, and each sample stream has it's own seperate effects.

FAT BASTARDS.mp3

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[netguyjoel]

what devs are named wurlitzer, arp, melotron, etc etc or are they audio tracks, or samplers?

[Gatam]

I presume that these instruments (GVI or Kontakt, perhaps both) are hosted in bidule ?

[dawman]

Brotha' Man Gatam is correctamundo.
I just use a boatload of external Mono/Stereo Source modules and insert the name and connect them to the ASIO 2 Source and Destinations, and if you look to the left you can see the ASIO 2 32 Source Module has decreased in size.
I am excited to hear each instrument through a large console in the house. It will be a first.
The FOH told me he will make me sound like God.....

It's nice to have motivated people running your sound.
I am too use to these worthless stagehands that haven't got a clue, but their brother, Uncle or daddy got them the job.
I actually had to do a gig once where the Console was encased in a Plexiglass Box w/ a lock !!! The Security guard would come in and set the levels and then lock it back up.......WTF #$%% !!! We called him the Sound Cop......

I even had to deal w/ a handicapped soundman once too. Because the Union doesn't discriminate they have to hire so many, differnt races, religions, blind food servers, etc. It's so politically correct that it's hard to comprehend.
This one chap was actually dyslexic, and asked us to bear with him as he couldn't read left to right, etc. Fuck that nonsense I told him................Put me in channel 11. Sad actually.

Anways a non union experienced engineer is going to be such a nice treat.