SCOPE 5, I do waiting for you

[Chukieth]

So long time waiting ...

[ChampionSound]

I hope SC will have some more concrete info at the Messe, besides that they will say they are working very hard on it, and that we have to have some patience, and that it's available very SOON...
We can't do anything else than wait, unfortunately.

[shelllink]

I think in April we see sc5

[krizrox]

I've given up waiting and waiting. I've decided to buy one of these instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfHWbQxZBro

[shelllink]

It is a pity.... It are necessary to wait so a little. Xite Already on sale

http://www.jrrshop.com/soniccore-scope- ... -7817.html

[iSiStOy]

Yeah but like they say themself on this website,
"This product was added to our catalog on Wednesday 11 June, 2008.".
I bet if you ask them about it, they'll say it's not available yet.

Personally, waiting some more is not a problem. I mean it's not my main source of revenue but I can "work" without at that time.

[Terrac]

I would even appreciate some better screen-shots, plugin lists, any sort of details, system requirements or a frakkin youtube video of it in action. Really, and basically ANYTHING more than the single parking page they have setup.

I am nearing the point where I am willing to buy a Symbolic Sound Pacarana and just be done with creamware / sonic-core's flakiness. They don't seem very interested in keeping their loyal customers interested.

We are a devoted bunch, willing to support a 10 year old platform with not that much in the way of releases and announcements. At some point though, the scope/pulsar/sfp platform will not run on any new system, and we will have to make choices, buy the *new* sonic-core thing, or look for more modern, stable stuff from another vendor.

Xcite does look nice, but will it play with 64bit OS's? or Linux at all?

Come on Sonic-Core, we need some more fuel to stay interested.

Terrac

[siriusbliss]

I would even appreciate some better screen-shots, plugin lists, any sort of details, system requirements or a frakkin youtube video of it in action. Really, and basically ANYTHING more than the single parking page they have setup.

I am nearing the point where I am willing to buy a Symbolic Sound Pacarana and just be done with creamware / sonic-core's flakiness. They don't seem very interested in keeping their loyal customers interested.

We are a devoted bunch, willing to support a 10 year old platform with not that much in the way of releases and announcements. At some point though, the scope/pulsar/sfp platform will not run on any new system, and we will have to make choices, buy the *new* sonic-core thing, or look for more modern, stable stuff from another vendor.

Xcite does look nice, but will it play with 64bit OS's? or Linux at all?

Come on Sonic-Core, we need some more fuel to stay interested.

Terrac

How's THIS video?
http://www.vimeo.com/2951069

64-bit is in the works.

I'm hangin' in and looking forward to Xite.

Greg

[Terrac]

How's THIS video?
http://www.vimeo.com/2951069

64-bit is in the works.

I'm hangin' in and looking forward to Xite.

Greg

Thanks Greg,
That video should hold me over for up to a year. It's nice to see it works and plays in windows at least. I am *really* hoping this platform is more stable than the Pulsar/Scope platform, which, every time I upgrade seems to become less reliable. So much so, that I am going to move my cards into a dedicated machine just so they don't take down my DAW in the middle of a project anymore. Sucks to lose unsaved work.

-Terrac

[Mr Arkadin]

I am *really* hoping this platform is more stable than the Pulsar/Scope platform, which, every time I upgrade seems to become less reliable.

-Terrac

Really? Can't say i have the same experience at all. In fact since 3.1c it's always been stable (apart from some ModIII things).

[iSiStOy]

Same here:
since v4.0, there are less stability problems with the software than with past v3, even though there are still some flaws. Some devices are also quite "moody" (gen1 boards particularly) meaning learning workarounds to avoid it to crash and to integrate with our current configurations (IRQ stuff).
We all know it's a pain: each time you need a new computer for sound, you need to study what and how before, then test, face troubles with other devices, etç...

Xite will be a different HW, PCI-e, with i/o, some more memory onboard, and scope controlled. We know S|C knows about the lacks and troubles of the previous boards, and that won't mean there won't be bugs in the soft at the beginning but at least, that the new architecture with solve the problems that cannot be dealt with with software updates.

Anyway, the Kyma looks like a great system for sound design. And it apparently also have some set of i/o somewhere:

Audio and MIDI input and output is handled via an external FireWire or USB converter or, for current Kyma owners, through a Capybara-320 with Flame FireWire I/O. Connect additional USB MIDI controllers like keyboards or fader boxes via the second USB port.

Edit:
i/o is in fact handled via connection with some external interface (TC, Motu, Lynx, etç...)

[oldspeak]

Hi,

What is a gen 1 board, how can you tell?

[garyb]

gen1 boards are very old Scope DP boards which can be difficult to tell from gen2 boards, but are bigger and usually came with the 24adat i/o(although there are newer boards that have that i/o and older boards that have Plus or Classic20 i/os), or 4dsp pulsar 1s. i have a pulsar1 and have no troubles from it, but the gen1 boards definitely don't work as well as the current ones.

[oldspeak]

Thanks Gary,

Would you be so kind as to inform me if a version 1.01 card is gen1?

Thanking you

[garyb]

i would think so. the production date is a better indicator, but i don't remember the cut off dates offhand...

[oldspeak]

gen1 boards are very old Scope DP boards which can be difficult to tell from gen2 boards, but are bigger and usually came with the 24adat i/o(although there are newer boards that have that i/o and older boards that have Plus or Classic20 i/os), or 4dsp pulsar 1s. i have a pulsar1 and have no troubles from it, but the gen1 boards definitely don't work as well as the current ones.

Thank you Gary for your replies.

What would you say regarding the older AD16 interfaces, can they work at up to 96Khz at all? I note there are 2x ADAT i/o and I'm not certain that they can operate in S/MUX mode but I've noticed that even on the older interface there is a Wordclock i/o, so would that only be used via Z-link?

Thanks once again for your time in answering my questions.

[garyb]

the original A-16 did not do s-mux, to my knowledge, so no 96khz.

bnc wordclock can be used with adat or z-link or sp/dif and aes/ebu. it is an optional way of transmitting digital clock to multiple devices. adat, z-link aes/ebu and sp/dif all can transmit clock as well.

[oldspeak]

Hi Gary,

The following:

http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=25746

would appear to contradict what you are saying, but I believe you would be right, otherwise why release a new breakout box at all if only for those DIP switches and level meters.

If you could also tell me, is the i/o on the older A16 model fully balanced?

There isn't much information and I know you are about selling new things but I'd appreciate it if you could tell me or find out.

Thank you

[astroman]

... If you could also tell me, is the i/o on the older A16 model fully balanced? ...

I have the old A16 - it is fully balanced, but completely different from the 2 'ultra' successors.
It's effectively a 16bit converter on which you may consider all bits 'valid' as the hardware uses an 18bit stage.
For sure not the most transparent thing on earth, but it features that 'fat' kind of sound you might prefer in latin, funk or rock stuff.
Beware of sending Beyonce or Mariah Carey crap through it, tho
The unit is (of course...) also suspectable to wear due to age, recommended only to someone familiar with repair (or easy access to a technician).

The main difference to the successors is probably that aside from the surface mounted converters the old A16 seems to be mainly hand crafted. Completely unaffordable today.

Both A16 ultras are fully balanced. The only difference between the 2 versions are the XLR connectors, which is quite important if you consider the aquisition of 32 XLR adapters. Not only an additional 300 bucks investment, but you just wouldn't want those extra connections in a professional environment.

cheers, Tom

[oldspeak]

Thanks Tom, that's helpful information.

About the old boxes, they are the blue ones am I right with "Creamware" written on the front.

If so what are the 8 lights on the front for and there seems two dials or something on the right?

One more question if I may, does the Wordclock only work when Z-link is being used?

Thanking you